or you know, we can just agree that veigar is good in some comps and bad in/against some comps
Yes, simply put Veigar is a late game champ.
It's not that they're saying Veigar isn't viable or anything- if his early game goes good then great. Extra boost for stomping the late game, but his early game isn't the best and that's when you should capitalize on his early game the most.
In the same way you shit on a Nasus at the start and keep it up, so he doesn't get farm and you can end the game without an invincible godlike dog just 1v5'ing your team. Same thing kinda applies to Veigar, except I feel that he brings more to the team in the early and mid game phases with his his AoE stun alone, but due to the range it is hard to use without getting yourself caught in an unfavorable position :'P
which is basicly same with nasus right now, mid and late game unless you reached over 600 stacks by something like 25-30 minutes you're not that relevant because you're very easy to kite.
lolwhat
if you expected me to give you an answer, then i honestly dont fucking understand what your point is, i guess i should go something like "o i heard sotd ie malphite and full armpen xin are also very viable, i've went legendary using those builds in my normal games with friends against people of lower silver divisions several times, completely agreed with your opinion!".
if you didn't, i guess i'm sorry lol..