HTOTM: FUSION
Let me get this straight...

mikotaku said that the word has negative connotations, so you shouldn't use it.

Then you called that statement retarded, yet agree that the word has negative connotations.

Are you saying we should use the word to describe them, despite them finding it horribly offensive, because you don't find the connotations legitimate?

...do you know what a connotation is?
Do you not realise religions werent allowed to do allot of things back then that we do now. It changes. If you read the bible it says all kinds of things you are and not allowed to do do we follow that? No it does not apply to us anymore because we are a different age.

Also, Homo is just an abbreviation of Homosexual, I suppose if you're being professional you wouldnt abbreviate. But still it means what it sounds like it means.

Sohno mentinoed something about religion so I decided to bring that up.

Fuck if you're gonna be that stubborn about it;
# Round haircuts. See you in Hell, Beatles… and/or kids with bowl cuts, surfer cuts or (my favorite) butt cuts. Leviticus 19:27 reads “You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.”


# Football. At least, the pure version of football, where you play with a pigskin. The modern synthetic footballs are ugly and slippery anyways. Leviticus 11:8, which is discussing pigs, reads “You shall not eat of their flesh nor touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you.”
And you’re doubly breaking that if you wake up, eat some sausage then go throw around the football. Or go to the county fair and enter a greased pig catching contest.


# Fortune telling. Before you call a 900 number (do people still call 900 numbers, by the way?), read your horoscope or crack open a fortune cookie, realize you’re in huge trouble if you do.

Leviticus 19:31 reads “Do not turn to mediums or spiritists; do not seek them out to be defiled by them. I am the Lord your God.” The penalty for that? Check Leviticus 20:6: “As for the person who turns to mediums and to spiritists, to play the harlot after them, I will also set My face against that person and will cut him off from among hispeople.”

Seems like a lifetime of exile is a pretty harsh penalty for talking to Zoltar.


# Pulling out. The Bible doesn’t get too much into birth control… it’s clearly pro-populating but, back when it was written, no one really anticipated the condom or the sponge, so those don’t get specific bans.

But… pulling out does. One of the most famous sexual-oriented Bible verses… the one that’s used as anti-masturbation rhetoric… is actually anti-pulling out.

It’s Genesis 38:9-10: “Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight ofthe Lord; so He took his life also.”

Yep — pull out and get smote. That’s harsh.

# Tattoos. No tattoos. Leviticus 19:28 reads, “You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I amthe Lord.”

Not even a little butterfly on your ankle. Or Thug Life across your abdomen. Or even, fittingly enough, a cross.

#


# Polyester, or any other fabric blends. The Bible doesn’t want you to wear polyester. Not just because it looks cheap. It’s sinfully unnatural.

Leviticus 19:19 reads, “You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.”

Check the tag on your shirt right now. Didn’t realize you were mid-sin at this exact second, did you? (Unless you checked the tag by rolling off your neighbor’s wife while you two were having anal sex in the middle of robbing a blind guy. Then your Lycra-spandex blend is really the least of your problems.)

# Divorce. The Bible is very clear on this one: No divorcing. You can’t do it. Because when you marry someone, according to Mark 10:8, you “are no longer two, but one flesh.” And, Mark 10:9 reads, “What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.”

Mark gets even more hardcore about it a few verses later, in Mark 10:11-12, “And He said to them, ‘Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.’”

# Letting people without testicles into church. Whether you’ve been castrated or lost one or two balls to cancer isn’t important. The Bible doesn’t get that specific. It just says you can’t pray.

Deuteronomy 23:1 reads (this is the God’s Word translation, which spells it out better), “A man whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off may never join the assembly ofthe Lord.”

Oh, and the next verse says that if you’re a bastard, the child of a bastard… or even have a great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchild of a bastard, you can’t come to church or synagogue either. Deuteronomy 23:2 reads, “No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly ofthe Lord; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the Lord.”

# Wearing gold. 1 Timothy 2:9 doesn’t like your gold necklace at all. Or your pearl necklace. Or any clothes you’re wearing that you didn’t get from Forever 21, Old Navy or H&M.

“Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments.”

# Shellfish. Leviticus 11:10 reads, “But whatever is in the seas and in the rivers that does not have fins and scales among all the teeming life of the water, and among all the living creatures that are in the water, they are detestable things to you.” And shellfish is right in that wheelhouse.

Leviticus 11 bans a TON of animals from being eaten (it’s THE basis for Kosher law); beyond shellfish and pig, it also says you can’t eat camel, rock badger, rabbit, eagle, vulture, buzzard, falcon, raven, crow, ostrich, owl, seagull, hawk, pelican, stork, heron, bat, winged insects that walk on four legs unless they have joints to jump with like grasshoppers (?), bear, mole, mouse, lizard, gecko, crocodile, chameleon and snail.

Sorry if that totally ruins your plans to go to a rock badger eat-off this weekend.

# Your wife defending your life in a fight by grabbing your attacker’s genitals. No joke. Deuteronomy actually devotes two verses to this exact scenario: Deuteronomy 25:11-12.

“If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity.”

That’s impossible to misinterpret. Ladies, if your husband is getting mugged, make sure to kick the mugger in the pills. Do not do the grip and squeeze (no matter what “Miss Congeniality” might advise). Or your hand needs to be cut off.

Source: http://www.bspcn.com/2009/06/23/11-t...you-do-anyway/
"As a final note, I know that nine of these 11 cite the Old Testament, which Christianity doesn’t necessarily adhere to as law.

To which I say: If you’re going to ignore the section of Leviticus that bans about tattoos, pork, shellfish, round haircuts, polyester and football, how can you possibly turn around and quote Leviticus 18:22 (“You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”) as irrefutable law? "

Theres your proof Slapped. Look in the bible your self if you have to and aren't atheist since so many people online have no religion...


Wow after reading that god seems pretty damned harsh xD Cant even pull out!?
Last edited by isaac; Jan 13, 2010 at 07:07 AM.
Originally Posted by isaac View Post
Do you not realise religions werent allowed to do allot of things back then that we do now.

hey baby, back then in olden day, church and stat were one. That means the church could do whatever they damn well please. e.g:torture the living dayights out of anything that moves. you got it backwards boy-o

Originally Posted by jaredvcxz View Post
The only reason why it has such bad connotations is people like everybody between the ages of 9 and 30, etc, and their gay jokes.

fixed.

Originally Posted by jaredvcxz View Post
Homo= Same
Sexual= Attracted sexually

mind=blown

don't act for a second like people say "homo" like they do sir, or bud, or dude, etc.
even I can tell when people B.S me
Last edited by mikotaku; Jan 13, 2010 at 07:02 AM.
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I said religion not the church, I meant the laws of the bible that people had to follow. Like sacrificing goats after pulling out of sex as to not get that girl pregnant.
Before someone mentions that there are, like, FIVE (gasp) other mentions of homosexuality and how bad it is in the bible: Two of them, the ones about "the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah" isn't valid unless you also condone incest.

You see, after Lot leaves Sodom, instructed to do so by god, he and his two daughters (his wife was already transformed into a pillar of salt, because she looked back despite god telling them not to) took shelter in a cave. So, the daughters did the only logical thing (right?), made their father drink wine until he was drunk, and seduced him to intercourse, both of them, on consecutive nights.

Of course, IF you really think that's fine and dandy, go on bashing homosexuality, otherwise you're pretty much a bigot.
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Originally Posted by Delaid View Post
Let me get this straight...

mikotaku said that the word has negative connotations, so you shouldn't use it.

Then you called that statement retarded, yet agree that the word has negative connotations.

Are you saying we should use the word to describe them, despite them finding it horribly offensive, because you don't find the connotations legitimate?

...do you know what a connotation is?

I was arguing that the use of it isn't ignorant, though.

And if they find it offensive, what should we call them? Rainbows? Freddie Mercurymen? Really, we're forced to work with a really small vocabulary here. We should call them homosexuals because it's the correct term.


And a connotation is sort of like how you interperet a word. Like, we take gay to mean homosexual because people have put that connotation on it. Or something. I have the general idea.
i liek turtelz xd
Wasn't talking about calling them "homosexuals", was talking about simply saying "homo."

A connotation is a meaning that comes along with a word without strictly being in its definition, an undertone, implication, etc. "Homo" carries with it a sense of being derogatory, offensive, and the like, and so pisses some people off when you use it to describe them.

As an example of another term that started out unoffensive, then developed a negative connotation and people stopped using it except as a slur, "negro."
Originally Posted by mikotaku View Post
by their name.

That's the individual, not the group.



DeLaid: I see your point there. But Homosexual is too much to type :C
i liek turtelz xd
And according to a couple of players in a toribash server, if you dont like porn you are a Fag. I strongly disagreed as they were picking on this other guy calling him a fag for not liking porn. And I still strongly disagree at which point he rage quit.




I wonder how true that pic is lol
Last edited by isaac; Jan 14, 2010 at 07:14 AM.