oh yeah just noticed. about that clan pic. every time we try it just gets out of hand with procrastination and the like. a skilled artist offered us one for free and we failed so i think if we do deiced to get one should have one thread to organize our thoughts. once we come up with a official outline we ship it out to several artists till we find some one to do it. instead of asking for one then wasting time thinking of a idea.

Damn yeah, stup..... :/
Ehhh epic fail moment.

Well I could always try doing one. ....one of these days ;)