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I celebrate Christmas as the birth of my God (Please don't turn this into a religous discussion we've had too many of them). The gifts are just a bonus. Personally, I don't really approve of no Christians celebrating Christmas. I know they have the right but it's kind of intruding if you ask me. I know Jewish people who celebrate Christmas. Obviously they don't practice Judaism because if they did they would know that Christmas celebrated the birth of (in their view) an impostor of their God who they later had a hand in the killing of.
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I celebrate Christmas as the birth of my God (Please don't turn this into a religous discussion we've had too many of them). The gifts are just a bonus. Personally, I don't really approve of no Christians celebrating Christmas. I know they have the right but it's kind of intruding if you ask me.

Hm, not everybody in our family is religious but we think of it as a time of getting together and celebrating the past year. The family custom and togetherness overshadows the religious aspect. I don't think anybody in our family considers the non-Christian relatives intruders. Just a different viewpoint, I guess.
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Hm, not everybody in our family is religious but we think of it as a time of getting together and celebrating the past year. The family custom and togetherness overshadows the religious aspect. I don't think anybody in our family considers the non-Christian relatives intruders. Just a different viewpoint, I guess.

What I said about intruders seems to have come out wrong. I'm not saying that I despise them for celebrating Christmas. I'm saying that they are celebrating a religous holiday that isn't even theirs. If they want to do it I don't mind it just shows how the amount of concern for religous independence has decreased seriously in past years.

On a sidenote: Doesn't it seem weird that people from many religions celebrate Christmas but there are no other holidays where many religions celebrate it? There don't seem to be many Hindu's and Christian's celebrating Hannukah for example.
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Originally Posted by footside View Post
What I said about intruders seems to have come out wrong. I'm not saying that I despise them for celebrating Christmas. I'm saying that they are celebrating a religous holiday that isn't even theirs. If they want to do it I don't mind it just shows how the amount of concern for religous independence has decreased seriously in past years.

Eh, I suppose the meanings of holidays are bound to change to reflect the changing cultures around them. Christmas traditions were derived from a variety of cultures' winter celebrations, like the Feast of the Son of Isis, Saturnalia, and Yule. It was Pope Julius I who declared Jesus's birth to be on Dec. 25 in 350. I think it's interesting to imagine what christmas will be like in two hundred years.
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Originally Posted by footside View Post
What I said about intruders seems to have come out wrong. I'm not saying that I despise them for celebrating Christmas. I'm saying that they are celebrating a religous holiday that isn't even theirs. If they want to do it I don't mind it just shows how the amount of concern for religous independence has decreased seriously in past years.

On a sidenote: Doesn't it seem weird that people from many religions celebrate Christmas but there are no other holidays where many religions celebrate it? There don't seem to be many Hindu's and Christian's celebrating Hannukah for example.

Not really that weird.
'West' has been a dominant force in the world for numerous centuries, and it's influence (cultural, religious and scientific) is felt pretty much everywhere to some extent. Another reason is that, as SmileyJones said, Pope has made Christmas to coincide with many pagan holidays so that they would be easier to convert. Same with Halloween and maybe even Easter.
Finally, nowadays holidays like Christmas and Easter are extremely secularized and nothing like they were originally. People invented mascots like a fat bearded man in a red suit (few even know his real supposed name, St Nicholas) and a mutated bunny who poops chocolate eggs -- all in order to sell these holidays to all types of people and make money.
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Personally i think your just taking it a bit to far now man, its one thing slagging off issues that are imposrtant and things tht many people generate the same feelings for, but then its another thing, slagging off things that billions of children and other people look forward to and love every year, and there is no harm having joy in one day, because that day is one of the most enjoyable days a child could have....
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Obviously they don't practice Judaism because if they did they would know that Christmas celebrated the birth of (in their view) an impostor of their God who they later had a hand in the killing of.

Actually, Jesus was a Jew, and the Jewish king at the time of Jesus' death refused to give the death penalty that the Romans requested him to do, so the Romans did it. And the Jewish people didn't have a hand in killing him at all, despite what Mel Gibson might depict.



Anyways, back on to the topic, 'Christmas' is getting very annoying. I too have happened upon Santas and reindeer in the middle of October and they annoyed me to no end, though more commonly I see it on early November, Halloween and all. Either way, it looks amazingly obnoxious to advertise 'Christmas' a month or two ahead of time. Nobody goes around carolling in November because you look like a retard doing so. Businesses are the only thing I can think of that can start celebrating 'Christmas' early without looking like fools.
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Oh well.
First thing to say: First the time in my life, the snow in Poland came faster than Coca-cola Christmas commercial ;)
I hate how Christmas come so early. It takes all the magic, and everyone just wait for them to end so those annoying commercials will end.
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