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Originally Posted by Rutten View Post
Perhaps middle eastern women don't just wear the burqas because their law tells them to? Perhaps they wear it because the believe that they should wear it because of their religion. We're sort of venturing into individual rights here. As a believer in negative liberty I believe it's their right not be interferred with. Let them wear their silly little cloths.


Well, my religious traditions prompt me to wear a gun on me at all times. Preventing me from doing so ( be it in airport or white house) is a gross violation of my god-given rights and leaves me deeply offended. Too bad I live in a society and I must compromise some of my own traditions/whims if they are detrimental to safety of others.
Last edited by Odlov; Jan 17, 2010 at 10:31 PM.
Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
What about places like department stores or banks? If I was a worker there I would be unnerved to see someone whose whole upper body is concealed walking in. It would render them immune to security camera tapes should they commit a crime and escape. Hell, you can't even tell if it's a woman under there or a man, making identifying them that much more difficult.

I agree with you completely, I was simply using the McDonalds and factory analogies to get the point across. Note that I said the workplace is not a place for religion, not just professions that present an immediate hazard.
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Your religion requires you to carry a gun on your person at all times? It's great that you put forth these little scenarios. But they're just that, scenarios. A gun is a weapon, a burqa is not.

A burqa conceals your identity completely. It's the same as wearing a mask out in public, which you can't do.
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Originally Posted by Rutten View Post
Your religion requires you to carry a gun on your person at all times? It's great that you put forth these little scenarios. But they're just that, scenarios. A gun is a weapon, a burqa is not.

Errr...and? Both compromise safety.

Here's another one: my religion tells me to smoke a strong hallucinogenic plant every few hours because it elevates my consciousness and gets me closer to god. Scenarios are endless.
Originally Posted by Warcry View Post
A burqa conceals your identity completely. It's the same as wearing a mask out in public, which you can't do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween


Errr...


Maybe not in Australia, but in the U.S. I assure you it's quite legal.

Remember that every (Islamic) terrorist attack on the U.S. has been carried out (or attempted) by Shi'a Muslim males, usually students or younger men.

Not a single one has been attempted by a woman (AFAIK, that is). Although the possibility of a man disguised in a burqa is possible, as Odlov said. Airports would not a be a good place for the burqa nowadays.

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Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
Errr...and? Both compromise safety.

Here's another one: my religion tells me to smoke a strong hallucinogenic plant every few hours because it gets me closer to god. Scenarios are endless.

I think he was pointing out that he's never heard of a religion that required one to carry a gun at all times. In other words, try to keep the scenarios a bit more realistic, such as the one above.

Also remember that a huge portion of the population is Islam, and for a short period of time last year, there were more Muslims than Christians.
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You can't fire a projectile through someones skull with a burqa. Nor can you smoke it. So stop comparing a burqa to them.

Originally Posted by Rutten View Post
You can't fire a projectile through someones skull with a burqa. Nor can you smoke it. So stop contrasting a burqa to them.

And? I thought I explained in detail how burka can compromise public safety, much like that same herb or a gun (obviously to a lesser extent, but nevertheless)