HTOTM: FUSION
Originally Posted by dee666 View Post
Yo man im american Well African-American and i don't think we have any concentration camps man i would hate The USA if we did

It's not a matter of thinking or believing. It's a fact.

And Harlequin is right. Unknowing Americans like to think of themselves as putting DANGEROUS TERRORISTS TO JUSTICE, when they don't know that those people are tortured and foltered for information. Including innocent people.

cba to find a citation or source or whatever since im tired.

Also, CIA prison camps in Eastern Europe anyone? I remember that being on the news a while back.
If they didn't want us in their land they shouldn't have done 9/11.

epic quote, i think bush would say the exsact same thing, congratiolations you have thesame IQ.
"I dissaprove of what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it"
errr.. I think 9/11 is load of bullshit made by america. kinda lazy to search for all 9/11 info agian to prove it's fake.
Originally Posted by a_coathanger View Post
I don't give a fuck what happens to terrorist period. They made their choice and now they have to expect us to make choices as well. If they didn't want us in their land they shouldn't have done 9/11.

There are many militant groups in the middle east, as well as regional militias who are trying to defend their land. We're not fighting a war against "The Terrorists" like they're some kind of army. We're fighting to bring stability to these governments.

Terrorist groups often recruit by appealing to anti-American sentiment within the civilian population. As long as we own military bases in these countries and continue carrying out this anti-terrorist campaign, they will be able to claim that we're the imperialist invaders. When trying to secure our own safety, it's self-defeating to keep fighting overseas. Preemptive military action against civilian combatants in foreign countries has made us no safer and drained our budget surplus. If our real goal is national security, we would invest in our ports.

The real reason we're staying is to protect the stability of these countries' governments. I don't know the best way to do this, we can keep our soldiers in and keep spending money or try to train the local governments and wind up with half of them working with Al-Qaeda. It's a bad situation all around, and I don't have the solution. But don't kid yourself into thinking that this "war" is winnable or that it's a war. It's a shit sandwich, and now we have to eat it and smile or else get out of there and see what horrible things happen.
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Originally Posted by a_coathanger View Post
I don't give a fuck what happens to terrorist period. They made their choice and now they have to expect us to make choices as well. If they didn't want us in their land they shouldn't have done 9/11.

protip: the USA uses terror tactics too, (see: shock and awe tactics, torture of prisoners) therefore making them terrorists too. A terrorist isn't just someone who opposes america either.

protip#2: A group of islamic extremists flying a couple planes into an american building does not justify the invasion of an entire country. But eh i guess they don't educate you as to the actual motivation behind the invasion of Afghanistan in american schools eh?
So many posts and nobody mentioned Abu-Ghraib...

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