HTOTM: FUSION
I don't like animal cruelty, people believe that they are more superior than an animal. I have no respect for people who harm animals for no reason or for their personal enjoyment.
bring back wibbles
God. I could not watch either of those videos. It's just too horrible. There should be a fine at a minimum. And possibly jail time. And I'm not talking about some small fine. I mean like a really big fucking fine. This is awful. People should not be on this earth if this is how people treat other creatures.
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My name's Mr. Cupcake.
Cruelty to animals is just horrible!
Just people needing to feel like they are more powerful. Go get yourself checked.
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Yes, and thousands of animals get boiled/chopped/diced alive in the factory farms due to a complete failure to maintain slaughterhouses. Plus the farms throw useless animals into a meat grinder and trash compactor.

TBH, this is relatively weaksauce, it just appeals to people's sense of pity more.
Originally Posted by Nermado View Post
God. I could not watch either of those videos. It's just too horrible. There should be a fine at a minimum. And possibly jail time. And I'm not talking about some small fine. I mean like a really big fucking fine. This is awful. People should not be on this earth if this is how people treat other creatures.

Think about it though... a fine? A fine is totally pointless, "oh that man is abusing an animal, ten thousand dollar fine for him. So what? Fisherman reel up fish from the ocean, and cut them apart while they're still alive. Things like this happen all the time. I've whatched this horrible video of an apache helicopter gunner gunning down poor innocent people and laughing at them, now thats horrible because they are people. Animals are animals, and humans are the dominant race on earth, therefore cruel treatment of animals shouldnt even matter, as they do not have the thinking processees we have. People in 3rd world countries find water snakes, and cut them up while they are still alive, again i ask, so what? Torture has always existed if you think about it. Even back in the time of the dinosaurs, dinosaurs would be ripped apart while they were still alive, even though it that may be necessary for the predator, people torture all the time because we are barbaric.


Edit: in response to other posts, you say that people just want to feel superior to animals, but we ARE superior to animals, so why would it matter what some people do to them?

AGAIN IM NOT
defending animal cruelty, but I don't think it is wrong.
Last edited by pwned62; May 27, 2010 at 11:42 PM.
Ecophilosophical communism... whatever the hell that is... or Psychosolcialism...
Originally Posted by pwned62 View Post
Things like this happen all the time. I've whatched this horrible video of an apache helicopter gunner gunning down poor innocent people and laughing at them, now thats horrible because they are people. Animals are animals, and humans are the dominant race on earth, therefore cruel treatment of animals shouldnt even matter, as they do not have the thinking processees we have.

I long for a day when a far older and more developed extraterrestrial species invade Earth and torture humans to extinction. Would be cool to see them disassemble men, women and children alive and make souvenirs out of our skin and bones, to bring back to their home planet. Would be sweet if you were the last to go, after seeing the massacre of your family. After all, we're just dumb animals with negligently primitive technology. We are insects to them, with our little insect soldiers and little insect leaders. Our meager brain power couldn't even hold a candle to theirs.

Bottom line is this: humans are no more intrinsically valuable than bacteria.
Our value is strictly intersubjective.

Yes, we are the most powerful and most advanced animals on this little rock. Must we abandon all courtesy and compassion for weaker species for our little negligent comforts? Cows and chickens have developed nervous system, and suffer as greatly as human would in the same circumstances.
Seems that "noble" is just a stupid obsolete word nowadays.

Frankly, though, I am positive that animal abuse will begin to decline as we develop better methods of growing good meat and materials in a lab. Advances in nanotechnology will help a whole lot.

Edit: in response to other posts, you say that people just want to feel superior to animals, but we ARE superior to animals

Nope.
Whatever criteria you use to determine our superiority is arbitrary.
Polar bears are superior to humans, because they are stronger. See what i did there?
Last edited by Odlov; May 28, 2010 at 01:26 AM.
All bodies operated by a central brain are people.
All people have the god/physics given right to life and choice.
All people are restricted to the limitations of their bodies/brains.
All humans are animals, all animals are people, all people are here, all people have life, all people interact with the environment, all people who damage the balance of all people are the problem.


Human beings are teh only people who dont do anything about their members' imbalances and even fight to encourage and promote these imbalances.
Originally Posted by WibbleWarrior View Post
All bodies operated by a central brain are people.

Nonsense. Stop hijacking words and defining them as something only you agree on. People = homo sapiens; primates of genus homo, of Great Ape family.

All humans are animals, all animals are people

Again...nonsense. Can't you ever say something without substituting orthodox definitions of words with completely different ones? It's annoying and doesn't reinforce your point whatsoever.

Human beings are teh only SPECIES who dont do anything about their members' imbalances and even fight to encourage and promote these imbalances.

Does an alligator who eats his own offspring promote balance?
Last edited by Odlov; May 28, 2010 at 01:26 AM.
/b/ delivers.

Anyway, I think animal abusing, despite their fate(food, dairy, take fur or skin, or whatever), should be punished as they have a life too. They feel. They suffer. If they're gonna get their taken away, at least make it fast.
In my most honest and crude opinion, animal abusing should be punished with eye by eye. Humanity is overrated.

Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
Nonsense. Stop hijacking words and defining them as something only you agree on. People = homo sapiens; primates of genus homo, of Great Ape family.



Again...nonsense. Can't you ever say something without substituting orthodox definitions of words with completely different ones? It's annoying and doesn't reinforce your point whatsoever.



Does an alligator who eats his own offspring promote balance?


All brains have the capacity to communicate with similar brains, learn from experience, and remember experiences. what defines person-hood is not merely genes or posture but the existence of mental faculties.