You idiot jxc, did you even read the article you quoted?
Your own goddamn quote says that the arecibo message would take 25,000 to reach the star cluster. Hell, by the time the messages reaches them, they'll be won't even be there anymore.
And your argument against fish is ridiculous, all he's stating is that it's logical to assume that it was done by humans, not that there are no alien life forms.
Humans are the only ones who use languages, text or art to communicate.
wat jxc. The idea that they can receive and interpret an alien message not aimed at them, and then send it back in such a short amount of time without us even knowing about them or establishing further contact is again, ridiculous.
Maybe I was overaggressive, but I get annoyed when someone vigorously defends conspiracy theories that seem clearly wrong to me.
Who said the species who received the message were at the star cluster? Thy could have intercepted it from any location.
And the Fish thing, he states:
I assume he means on earth, but I'm more than sure that there are more species in the universe that communicate with languages, text, or art. He's addressing a question that was never asked: "Out of all the species on earth, which could have created these crop circles?"
That's why I brought up the other possible intelligent species.
Oh, and, criticize the argument, not the arguer. It just makes you seem less credible.
That's debate 101. =/
Hoaxes. Think about it.
1. Advanced alien race...with stellar technology...covering millions of light years to do what? To draw some obscure pictures by pressing down on plants... If they wanted to communicate us something, don't you think they could have done it far more efficiently?
2. The most complex circle (the one with the alien portrait) defeats it's credibility just by portraying the extremely anthropomorphic alien image which we all know from our pop culture.
3. There have been several documentaries showing circle makers at work, who use nothing but a wooden plank on a string to make these things.
Here is one where some guys make a firefox logo crop circle:
wat jxc. The idea that they can receive and interpret an alien message not aimed at them, and then send it back in such a short amount of time without us even knowing about them or establishing further contact is again, ridiculous.
Lets look at earth, a planet with billions of intelligent life forms. Now lets say some person has a field. This person who owns the field is a farmer with a lawn mower and various other resources required to make crop circles.
Suddenly a crop circle appears on some guys field.
So what now, do we assume that it was aliens that aren't even on this planet. Am I supposed to believe that it was some creature trillions of galaxies away?
This is stupid, everyone knows the farmer could have easily done it.
Its clearly man made. Any other assumption is illogical, especially when you know that people could easily do this.
Ugh.
1.We never assumed they were capable of interplanetary travel.
2. Whether they can detect or decode radio transmissions in other frequencies/fundamental systems is completely hypothetical.
3.NO, IT IS NOT. A transmitter close enough/large enough to detect radio waves and respond that quickly would easily detectable by NASA. You are deluding yourself.
Edit: no fish look it's just too complex farmers couldn't have done it must've been magical aliens and their space lasers.
Why wouldn't we know about them?
Are you suggesting we haven't tried to contact extraterrestrials?
It's not stupid, a farmer could not have done this in the allotted time and it certainly would not be easy.
It's not "clearly" man-made otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation. If you honestly think that this sort of stuff would be easy to make, you're less intelligent than I had previously assumed.
1. If they have the ability to screw with crops they can presumably achieve interplanetary travel, or they're using some long range death ray with the power to push down grass...
2. This is all hypothetical.
3. I'm sure if that were the case NASA wouldn't be on TV going "hey guise aleens luv lady gaga." You are deluding yourself if you thinkthe governmentany government tells you every thing they do.
I suggest you research the subject more before trying to argue over it. There are over 1000 reputable, evidential, unexplained cases of UFOs/aliens scattered about the world. Even if it's not aliens it's definitely something you're unaware of and therefore you shouldn't be trying to defend it so adamantly. It's like saying God exists/doesn't exist or something.
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It's not stupid, a farmer could not have done this in the allotted time and it certainly would not be easy.