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Originally Posted by DarkJak View Post
Other than some rts games, it's usually a gpu bottleneck. Also the gtx 275 can't run all the games totally maxed out at playable framerates, which is why he may upgrade. Going from 30 to 40 is already a noticeable difference in smoothness.

The 400 series won't be bottlenecked by the quad core, especially if you can overclock it. Which one is it? Model number.


If you aren't gaming all the newest games though, your build is fine.

An ssd will show the most improvement IMO. Cuz harddrives are usually what slows computers down now. Not as helpful in gaming, but oh so nice everywhere else. But I don't recommend them right now cuz of the price, which hasn't fallen as fast as most people expected.

What's the size of your power supply? You'll need a larger one for a gtx 470/480.
If you want to max out games with AA and dx11, the 400's are better than the ati 5000's tier to tier. The ati's have more raw power but nvidia probably put the r&d into solving AA intensiveness. At least that's how the benchmarks look when the ati cards lose double the framerate with AA vs nvidia.

When I upgraded a new mobo+CPU+ram, I only noticed a 5% increase in framerates. It was a huge upgrade too. Cost about 600 bucks for it all, didn't skimp. Those won't be the best bang/buck unless you are running on a 5 yr old build.

Yea, I agree an SSD would make a huge difference, but at an unfortunately large price tag.

As for the power supply, you only need 400W to run a system like that, 500W if you want to leave overhead room, but no more than 500W, just make sure the power supply is rated 80+ or above, never go for anything that doesn't have the 80plus certification.

Originally Posted by Organ View Post
the athlon II x2 240 is what i have voxus, it's overclocked to 3.8ghz, it's really good for a dual core amd processor. most core 2 quads outperform todays amd quads in performance tests so yea i would say your quadcore would do excellent with a better graphics card behind it, like what darkjak suggests

side note here: games that rely on physics engines other than physx by nvidia tend to be really slow on dual cores and triple cores. one example is GTA IV. very poorly cpu optimized game because it runs the euphoria physics engine. most average quadcores should get above 40 fps where as a cpu like mine gets 30 fps ingame on average

I've never seen a game that needs more than the 240 X2 however, and it's hellacheep :P the value for money on it (provided you have a good enough fan to tame it) is unmatchable (I've actually done the maths and tested that hypothesis).

Really, only 2D physics based games have complex enough physics to be bottle necked by your CPU.
i'm sure that until we get into the next gen set of gaming systems my computer will do fine with gaming. (unless it's a pc only title like crysis was which takes 2 years to make a computer that can play it at max settings) the quad core cpu's though increase performance in gaming where as my cpu is like the standard bar for the recommended specs in most games

currently my memory is my bottleneck in my system though as i only have 2gb ddr2
Last edited by Organ; Jul 8, 2010 at 07:24 AM.
You don't say?
Ok thanks DarkJak, Organ and Voxus.
But should I change my and CPU to the Core 2 Extreme? or a higher Core 2 Quad?
I know the Core 2 Extreme sounds expensive but my dad won't give any new PC until next year because I bought Alienware.

Btw, is this specs ok?

Sapphire HD 5850
Asus P7P55D PRO
Core i5 750 (2.66 GHz)
Patriot Sector 5 4GB Dual Channel
CoolerMaster HAF 922
Corsair TX 850W
Hitachi 1TB Sata 2
DVD ROM Asus 24X Sata

I made it for my friend.
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yea that's a good pc adot, if you really want to go with a cpu upgrade i would get a core-i7 processor, any other upgrade probably wouldn't be that big of a difference. the core-i7 920 processor would probably be your best bet unless you have a bit more $ to spend lol, $300 though for a processor should go a long way on an upgrade
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that all useful info but if you want to ask us weather you should upgrade are not, we need to know what Motherboard you have so we can see what you can upgrade to
If I'm going to but the i7 Processor that means I need to buy a new MoBo
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The i7 won't offer too much in terms of gaming. Just stay with the i5, since you already got the mobo for it.
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