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Most of the times, viruses are created buy anti-virus companys, and to get bank acount details most of the times an hacker dont send you a virus.
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Originally Posted by LostWorld View Post
In this discussion thread we will be discussing about a few questions about the subject hackers.

-Why do they give us viruses
-Whats the point
-Aren't they afraid they will get caught
-how/why did they start hacking.

i consider hacking the dark side of coding.

I want serious posts here, anything wibble like WILL BE REPORTED by ME!!

...lol you hold your self is such high regard, well whatever RANT:


"Why do they give us viruses"
Well, first you miss understand some stuff, so;

EPIC DIGRESSION
'Hacker' simply means "To use a computer in a nonstandard way to achieve relatively standard computation / function", that is, hacker is the wrong word for 'someone who gives you a virus', these are called 'black hats', and secondly the virus thing is normally people who want credit card information, so allot of viruses are there to read your information.

Back on topic however some hackers do in fact use viruses for their work, or more correctly; Malware, in any case they use this just to demonstrate their skill, for fun, and to blow off massive corporations as many people love to do.

Whats the point
In what? I assume you mean viruses, but nice failure to phrase a question properly here :P Also I addressed this in your last question, so this is also redundant, just an expansion.

Aren't they afraid they will get caught
Generally, probably, but they also probably don't care, or have calculated that risk.

how/why did they start hacking.
First, periods don't denote questions, this is what the question mark ('?') is for :P

Anyway, I'll address this in two parts:

Why
Any from:
Because they can.
Because they find it interesting.
Because they hate corporations like Microsoft, and want to fuck around with them.
And in the case of black hats; because they want money, and this works.

How
Simple, they learn a whole bunch about computers, read wikipedia, and are normally quite interested in the Low Level stuff that goes on at the operating system level.


Now your thread gives allot of hate to 'Hackers' so let me straighten something up for you, there are also what are called 'White hats', these guys crack for a living, they will break into the security of a bank or whatever, after being heired to do so, then inform the bank or whatever of how to fix the flaws they find.

Considering 'hacking' the 'dark side' of coding, is pretty ignorant, when your definition is so far off from what the word actually means.
Yeah Voxus! No doubt. People need to understand the difference between "hacker" and "cracker".

They're different things. Cracking is usually done by people bad intentions, unethically. Whereas "hacking" can be done by people with good intentions.
The term "cracking" was created to sanitize the way the people refer to hackers as evil and unethical. It follows logically that people should really stop using the term "hacker" as a stereotype of the evil coders...
Last edited by GenkiSudo; Jul 28, 2010 at 02:49 PM.
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Normally they do that when we want something without hard job =D

For this I'm normally use to recover friends account in lot's of social websites, games and etc...

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-Virus is plainly screwing with other ppl because they can - They are mostly RATs to gain complete access on your computer

-The Point? Well some have the feeling they are Over other computer Users, Others Actually hack to defend other powerless users & others have their own personal intentions

-Sometimes - Depends on what your into. If your just hacking an online game theres nothing to worry about But when you start messing with other ppl directly you can be charged for Identity Theft - Much worse when you access a Companies network and drain their bank accounts <- Gettin Creative
If you are able to keep your identity completely hidden which is not easy then you dont have much to worry about mostly anything

-Most start from smaller levels like Ipod Hacks - Phones - Computers - Organizations - etc
They like it, Not much ppl are able to go HIGH & They have no Rules or Limits <- Best Part

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Originally Posted by Tekro View Post
Running quote ->

-Virus is plainly screwing with other ppl because they can - They are mostly RATs to gain complete access on your computer
...ever herd of a script kiddie? those are what you are thinking of, not "hackers", "crackers" nor even of viruses. What you just defined is a exploitive malware, normally with some trojan spliced in for the mix.

-The Point? Well some have the feeling they are Over other computer Users, Others Actually hack to defend other powerless users & others have their own personal intentions
You vastly underestimate the range of reasons to use, or misuse a computer.

-Sometimes - Depends on what your into. If your just hacking an online game theres nothing to worry about But when you start messing with other ppl directly you can be charged for Identity Theft - Much worse when you access a Companies network and drain their bank accounts <- Gettin Creative
If you are able to keep your identity completely hidden which is not easy then you dont have much to worry about mostly anything

"draining bank accounts" is "getting creative", right...

-Most start from smaller levels like Ipod Hacks - Phones - Computers - Organizations - etc
They like it, Not much ppl are able to go HIGH & They have no Rules or Limits <- Best Part

This is the best part of your post, because you use the word hacking in proper context, however this has nothing to do with the original post, as ipod hacks, are not how people suddenly learn bash inside and out.
Also, everything is limited, Rules are everywhere, broken or not.
-Mainly to obtain data about you(A crackers goal; Your bank account.) It really isn`t that impressive.
-Fun. Its just fun. I had a friend who managed to get over 3000 rapidshare accounts without getting busted.
-Only the ones who don`t know what they`re doing. It really isn`t that hard, once you have the proper knowledge and the ability to use it, confidence in your abilities is more then enough.
-Can`t generalize reasons.
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Originally Posted by LostWorld View Post
In this discussion thread we will be discussing about a few questions about the subject hackers.

-Why do they give us viruses
-Whats the point
-Aren't they afraid they will get caught
-how/why did they start hacking.

i consider hacking the dark side of coding.

I want serious posts here, anything wibble like WILL BE REPORTED by ME!!

they most likely are trying to steal info like passwords etc...
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a little.
for the fun of it.
-Why do they give us viruses?
Most don't, Almost all don't in fact, most just look about systems. making a virus is done much for the same reason as making Lego ships. Your able to, you have the tools and your bored. Plus at the end you get something cool.

-Whats the point?
See what you can find. Last night while looking at Microsoft's FTP server files I found some really stupid magic school bus games, they where shit but it was fun to find. (btw thats really easy to do and okay by Microsoft)

-Aren't they afraid they will get caught?
Hackers normal don't do anything wrong. Even if they do its a long and complicated process to arrest people for "hacking" in most places.

-how/why did they start hacking?
most people gain the skills for other less evil reasons then take it to a higher level. Then there is also the try-hard nerd type people who do it because the want a bigger Epenis. (Like in my case I was shown how to do the very lowest and most basic "hacks" so I can transfer files lager then my email provider will allow as part of a web design course)

For more info I recommend the book "hackers" by Bill Apro and Graeme Hammond
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