I'm pro to the piracy in the 99% of the case.If the price is too high,so for me is totally ok to steal the product
Same for the "real" theft:if the price are too high i have no problems in stealing
I have no moral problems in this case...the oppost:i think it's ok to steal to thiefs

Pirating software is technically theft and should be punished just like any other law infrigment.
I don't see what there is to discuss.
Saying that pirating is okay because the cooperations selling software are rich is bullshit and one can hardly generalize that. It is just an excuse for egocentric interests.

I don't really see what there is to be discussed. One owns a product and sells it, another one steals the product because he does not want to pay.
End of story.

So, a company that worked hard to give you a product, is a theif when they try to sell it to you?
Name me a case (not photoshop) in which the price was too high.

Piracy, or getting items via illegal means, should not be tolerated.
In very rare cases, people pirate a program and if they like it, they buy it.

I have to wonder what you are spending your money on if you can't afford a song that's $0.99. I understand that some people are not in the middle class, but that's not really an exscuse. Manage your money and you shouldn't have to many problems.

well this is my point of view in on things
should be simple enough to understand

What is your point?
Creating and publishing illegal copies is still illegal and a crime.
The exact definition of the crime does not even matter at this point, it is still illegal and it is for a reason.

It is wrong....that dosn't mean i don't do it. I do it because it's more conveient to do that then to go to the nearest movie rental place. (Netflix never has what i want)

I seriously lolling at this, love how people are all "hurr durr they sell millions so it's ok to pirate their stuff" without knowing the maths behind it. Just because they sold xxx doesn't mean they made a huge profit, you've got to take into account how much they spent making the product in the 1st place. A lot have to hit millions of sales to come close to breaking even.

eg. Noticed that a lot of game studios have been getting closed by their parent companies? It's because their stuff didn't manage to break even, largely due to excessive piracy. Sure some survive, like the World of Goo guys - that has a piracy rate of over 90% which is shocking to say the least.

Feel free to steal someone elses work, but be aware that if enough people do it you'll end up with nothing left for you to steal.
Or you could stop being greedy & buy stuff you want - it wont kill you to do without.

One key point to this debate, is whether or not the pirates would have paid for the things they pirate otherwise. Some of the claims the music industry make are insane.

If the companies weren't going so batshit insane over it (draconian DRM, bullshit claims of losing billions in profit) it would probably work out better for them. Like how EA released Spore with a maximum limit of installs, and in protest a lot of people pirated it (and got more freedom than those that didn't).

I like your points ginger.

Music is an easy one to shoot down (cos that's how I roll). CD's are cheaper these days, 'when I was a lad' they were Ѓ20+ a throw, now they're less than half that. Not to mention music can normally be bought cheaper via an online service.

I don't buy into the pirating to try thing at all for music - you can listen to pretty much anything online without having to break any laws. /me points at Youtube

Urgh new DRM, yeah that shit's fucking horrid. Then again Spore was pretty pap, and The Sims 3... Yeah nuff said with that.
It's a bit of a double edged sword, they add that crap because their stuff gets pirated and in turn that makes people pirate it. :| TBH regression is the best thing that can happen to the games industry. Money grabbing wanks like Activision & EA need to fuck off & prices need to drop back to 90's levels.
And no - you can't provoke this with piracy, that's one of the things fuelling the price rise (even if they talk shit & use it as an excuse) - just stop buying their 2nd rate crap. Hell we might actually get some good games out of it instead of *yawn* COD 9870250987243609862640986246: Exactly The Same But Different Edition.

Oh, and the same applies to games & applications etc as I stated about music - they have trials, demos or whatever. You get the chance to see if it's worth buying. And if you're a spotty teen living with their parents you don't need Photoshop to draw a few pictures. TVM for pirating the shit outa it & getting the price bumped for people who used it legit. >_>

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