Toribash
Originally Posted by ShadesOfPale View Post
Your response in undebateable.
I can't prove they don't exsist.You can't prove they do exsist.

Ontopic:I don't think its possible that we can find anything new.I would like to but this is just the same concept of unawnserable questions.
I do hope we can find something on the planet.However I don't think the condisions can be surviveable.

Well, sure, no evidence etc, but statistically speaking one of those positions has far more weight, and as a hint it's not your position. Frankly I rate it on the "impossible" scale that there is no other intelligent life in our galaxy, and on the "highly unlikely" scale that there is no other intelligent life in our local cluster. but to be honest I'd be happy to find alien life in any form, we have allot to learn from life still.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...oration.uknews
yo this is a badass article it would be SICK if there was some creatures down there think the same stuff we think "what if there is no other life out there" and then BAM we stumble apon them but i bet if we ever meet with intelligent life some bad shit will happen our ignorant people will probably try to pillage it and take its resorces and tha twould be terrible or possibly enslave them that would be worse lets hope something good happens
I do believe there may be plants, fungus or even bipede organisms.

The problem is:
How to get there?

Or even better:
Where are we gonna get there even if we try to go there?

The planet sure was an interesting discovery, but due to it's distance it may be very hard to study it.
oh yeah
Originally Posted by Chr0niK View Post
yo this is a badass article it would be SICK if there was some creatures down there think the same stuff we think "what if there is no other life out there" and then BAM we stumble apon them but i bet if we ever meet with intelligent life some bad shit will happen our ignorant people will probably try to pillage it and take its resorces and tha twould be terrible or possibly enslave them that would be worse lets hope something good happens

This is not going to happen, what you think we'll just send idiots to meet with a new race? No, we'll send robots, scientists, officials, etc. If they take the robots as offensive then that could be a problem, but any intelligent species will listen to reason.


Originally Posted by pusga View Post
I do believe there may be plants, fungus or even bipede organisms.

The problem is:
How to get there?

Or even better:
Where are we gonna get there even if we try to go there?

The planet sure was an interesting discovery, but due to it's distance it may be very hard to study it.


Indeed, most of the ideas for this are either "Wait until we have FTL travel or we know FTL travel isn't going to happen (we don't yet)" or "Wait until we can put the people on board into stasis so the trip doesn't age them." or "Send robots", all of these ideas have problems, and it's a legitimate question to ask how we will get there, but I don't doubt that we will find a way, technology has a way of surprising people when it really shouldn't, it's fairly predictable, and with the proper statistics it would be possible to calculate when we would have FTL travel if it is possible, when we could store a decent AI and ship it into space, when we could keep that data stored for decades as it travels without power.

http://www.ted.com/talks/ray_kurzwei...nsform_us.html
Originally Posted by Vox View Post
Indeed, most of the ideas for this are either "Wait until we have FTL travel or we know FTL travel isn't going to happen (we don't yet)" or "Wait until we can put the people on board into stasis so the trip doesn't age them." or "Send robots", all of these ideas have problems, and it's a legitimate question to ask how we will get there, but I don't doubt that we will find a way, technology has a way of surprising people when it really shouldn't, it's fairly predictable, and with the proper statistics it would be possible to calculate when we would have FTL travel if it is possible, when we could store a decent AI and ship it into space, when we could keep that data stored for decades as it travels without power.

http://www.ted.com/talks/ray_kurzwei...nsform_us.html

Yes, technology nowadays seems to be growing more and more, and as it is introduced, it keeps impressing people with the unexpected, so I don't see a reason why it would fail to make us shit a brick once again. Eventually we will find a way to make it there, maybe soon, maybe not, but I can almost guarantee that we will make it.
oh yeah
Originally Posted by Vox View Post
This is not going to happen, what you think we'll just send idiots to meet with a new race? No, we'll send robots, scientists, officials, etc. If they take the robots as offensive then that could be a problem, but any intelligent species will listen to reason.

Lol we are humans, we will either slaughter most of the species and let them live as third class citizens or we will beg for mercy as they grab us by the balls.
I R IRONMAN
Originally Posted by Hippybob View Post
Lol we are humans, we will either slaughter most of the species and let them live as third class citizens or we will beg for mercy as they grab us by the balls.

/offtop
Can't wait for Vox to see this.

/ontop

I seriously doubt there will be creatures intelligent enough there to grab us by the balls, and if we eleminated their species it would be like the worst scientific crime ever. And like Vox said, we will send scientists, officials, robots, etc.
oh yeah
A bit offtopic, maybe you want to take a look at this:


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We can see that the ESI (Earth Similarity Index) of KOI 736.01 is 0.98 (earth = 1), and the SPH (Standard Primary Habitability is 0.63 (earth today = 0.6ish). According to these stats, KOI 736.01 seems more habitable. But, I think these stats could still change. Kepler 22b was considered Warm Neptunian before, included in Class NH (non-habitable). I hope scientists continue researching KOI 736.01 soon.
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Originally Posted by Svern View Post


We can see that the ESI (Earth Similarity Index) of KOI 736.01 is 0.98 (earth = 1), and the SPH (Standard Primary Habitability is 0.63 (earth today = 0.6ish). According to these stats, KOI 736.01 seems more habitable. But, I think these stats could still change. Kepler 22b was considered Warm Neptunian before, included in Class NH (non-habitable). I hope scientists continue researching KOI 736.01 soon.

Interesting that, A good question is composition, so we need to know what it is made of to determine if things are likely to live there, consider that it has only 7% larger radius, thus doing some basic math it is around 1.225043 times more massive than earth in volume (based on a sphere, with a constant radius), is the extra ~.078 earth masses in mass just due to the error I incurred with the sphere based calculation or due to higher density materials, or both?

A planet with a higher density but still with a magnetic core may have interesting geological differences, I'm not educated in geology enough to say what differences however, just something that I'd like to know one day.

Sadly the killer is the distance, >1000 lightyears away and we'll need FTL travel or a dire need to get there to make it even considerable to be honest. Still the number of known planets that are Warm Terrans with a high SPH is low, can't be too picky.
Last edited by Vox; Dec 15, 2011 at 09:13 AM.