Originally Posted by sireal
I think everything should be allowed, because it's life. In life, muggings happen, robberys happen, shit happens. It's not really possible to control these occurances, and it's not really possible to control them on the internet. To be honest, I think as long as the corporations are fine, leave shit alone. I hate SOPA and ACTA, they suppress and kill things which are, in honesty, just communities of people sharing stuff. I torrent at numerous private trackers, and they are really, at the end of the day just communities, chilling and chatting in IRC is one of the best things IMO, it makes it worth going on the internet in the first place.
So yeah, I think no limit should be placed upon what we can share.
As a musician, I'm obliged to disagree with you, since one of the ways to get some profit out of music, is the sale of CDs.
You clearly don't have any experience in this field, but I believe that if you worked in the business of arts, you'd understand that people engaged in this business, suffer a lot with this issue.
I'm not completely against sharing, because it's a great way to spread the work of people, I only think that it should be more limited and authorized by the artists.
"Be obscure clearly."
Mmm, valid point. However, you have to be fairly successful and well known to release CDs and get any major profit out of it. You have to be even more successful to actually get pirated, because the main focus of piracy is the well known shit, the things people want.
So, I'll ask you this, how many CD's have you sold? How many have the people you've talked to sold? How have you or people you know personally been affected by piracy, and how severely? I am all for not pirating starting out musicians, ones that aren't under a big record label, ones that don't get 500k+ a year, those mofuckers deserve to be pirated. And it is to them that I am referring to, and to be honest I doubt you'd see a very unknown artist's album on the internet.
I still don't think it affects the world that much, plus you get the bullshit about upload a movie get 10 years rape and kill someone get 6 months, actually happened in America.
So, I'll ask you this, how many CD's have you sold? How many have the people you've talked to sold? How have you or people you know personally been affected by piracy, and how severely? I am all for not pirating starting out musicians, ones that aren't under a big record label, ones that don't get 500k+ a year, those mofuckers deserve to be pirated. And it is to them that I am referring to, and to be honest I doubt you'd see a very unknown artist's album on the internet.
I still don't think it affects the world that much, plus you get the bullshit about upload a movie get 10 years rape and kill someone get 6 months, actually happened in America.
Last edited by sireal; Apr 6, 2012 at 02:00 AM.
Originally Posted by sireal
Mmm, valid point. However, you have to be fairly successful and well known to release CDs and get any major profit out of it. You have to be even more successful to actually get pirated, because the main focus of piracy is the well known shit, the things people want.
So, I'll ask you this, how many CD's have you sold? How many have the people you've talked to sold? How have you or people you know personally been affected by piracy, and how severely? I am all for not pirating starting out musicians, ones that aren't under a big record label, ones that don't get 500k+ a year, those mofuckers deserve to be pirated. And it is to them that I am referring to, and to be honest I doubt you'd see a very unknown artist's album on the internet.
I still don't think it affects the world that much, plus you get the bullshit about upload a movie get 10 years rape and kill someone get 6 months, actually happened in America.
At the moment I'm recording a CD, this will be my first, but as a pub and studio musician, I spoke with quite influential people in the music industry ( producers and musicians) with alot of recorded CD's in my country and I must admit that I was quite surprised because I heard 2 sides, the first one was actually in accordance with this Interned freedom, the second was against, both provided valid arguments and I actually learned something about this, yes, it should exist Internet freedom but with some limitations.
Also, CD's are not the main source of profit in music, concerts are, so yeah, I'm neutral.
Whoever made this thread, thank you for making it, this is an underrated issue that needs to be discussed.
"Be obscure clearly."
Perhaps some limitations should be restricted.. but they can't be enforced, there's no way that you can do that. I think it's pretty much fine the way it is now, since if you get caught, jailtime (which should be a shitload less, but whatever) which is the same with any crime IRL.
I know CD's aren't the main source of profit, which is kinda why I was saying it doesn't really effect anyone :P
Agreed, this is going to be an interesting thread.
I know CD's aren't the main source of profit, which is kinda why I was saying it doesn't really effect anyone :P
Agreed, this is going to be an interesting thread.
