Originally Posted by BlueTurtle
My question is, just why? What makes us believe in a mystical being in the sky, and sometimes more than one? What drives us to kill ourselves in the name of our lord, or sacrifice ourselves and plead this being for forgiveness? Why can't we eat pork unless blessed or under certain circumstances? Why can't we marry people of the same sex? Why can't we disrespect cows? Why can't we disrespect our government? Why do we fight other countries battles in a war far too long that our country isn't even concerned about? Why invade another country to try to change their government, when we still complain about our own? Why do we have different beliefs, laws, loves, wants, needs, borders, and governments? Why can't we all live together in a big world as Atheists, Islams, Christian, or why gods at all?
Ok, I'm gonna say some stuff about the religion crap. What makes us believe in God and such things? Well, as that other guy said, it's in our dna. Also, we need a religion to guide us. It gives us hope when we're in a bad situation. The thing about the same sex marriage, and the pork thing is just some bull shit in religion. The warfare also links to some religions. Look below about the crusaders.
why do we go as far as to kill ourselves and others in the name of our lord, if we have one?
Well, have you heard of crusaders that killed thousands of men "in the name of god?" Actually, one commander thought that this was wrong and in one crusade, ordered his men not to kill anymore of the people in the city they were invading. He left for a couple of minutes and come back seeing that his men killed the remaining people. God never stated that we should kill people that do not believe in our religion. Although, he did encourage his followers to change their thoughts about their religion.
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Originally Posted by deprav
I didn't know that, but that's weirdly not surprising me. I mean, the universe and living things follow the laws of physics, chemistry, biology etc... These are not a "supernatural conscious", but they're still some kind of "higher power" that we can only accept and follow. That's what I'd call my "god", the "primal fact" that Life just keep on living; the unlikely order of Life popping out of chaos and adapting itself constantly. No need for magic bearded dudes ;o
I might check that book ! Not the first time I come accross this title
Also yeah, this is basically what I believe too; as a Unitarian Universalist I believe in some sort of cosmic consciousness.
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Originally Posted by SparChar
Well, have you heard of crusaders that killed thousands of men "in the name of god?"
I mentioned this in my post; basically world leaders used "god" as a way to get armies of infidels to attack the holy land.
Also, I think this thread should probably be closed soon, because threads like these usually end with atheism vs Christianity, and there is no discussion there, just two groups of closed-minded people arguing over god (and creationists refuse to be wrong about their beliefs even when proven wrong, so it won't end).
imo we should get out as many intelligent and enlightened posts as possible before the shitstorm happens.
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Originally Posted by JayStar
But it's okay for God to kill?
Well, some people will argue that it's okay because he created us. It's just like in your little games like Pocket God where you raise your tribe and punish them for fun or if they do something wrong. He gives and takes away lives. Just stating this crap. I believe in God. I don't really have a main religion. I'm not an atheist either.
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