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Not the most interesting, it is however the most relevant given the present is the resulting effect of past tense, which is ofc a prelude to the future so history is a pivot like the sun we revolve around...which is pivoted to the galactic center etc etc.

In addition I feel that nothing can be truly taught, teaching itself is (should be) an act of guidance towards self realization, and as someone else mentioned we still utilize an archaic method that is as the blunt hammer that imprints information by striking the anvil per se.

More-over, the issue with history as it stands is highly distorted given the fact that back in the days of old those who would win a war also decided they should erase certain historical pivots in order to shift perception toward their favor/line, even today there are events that aren't told accurately of the present and so further distorting the futures point of reference.

This is why, I feel, history is the most relevant feature of the universe, even better is that we can change the past from the present position (via perspective) which then in turn effects the past view thus our present attitudes towards it, meaning that although there are distortions of our history we can at any time choose to acknowledge and alter set events from the future without the need for technological time-travel devices.

Where weve been is where we are going, theres an old saying that states 'there is nothing new under the sun', though I don't expect any agreement on that particular matter.
Originally Posted by Endomyst View Post
More-over, the issue with history as it stands is highly distorted given the fact that back in the days of old those who would win a war also decided they should erase certain historical pivots in order to shift perception toward their favor/line, even today there are events that aren't told accurately of the present and so further distorting the futures point of reference.

There's something that Napoleon (and supposedly Alexander) said that sums up this point, "History is a set of lies agreed upon".

Originally Posted by Endomyst View Post
This is why, I feel, history is the most relevant feature of the universe, even better is that we can change the past from the present position (via perspective) which then in turn effects the past view thus our present attitudes towards it, meaning that although there are distortions of our history we can at any time choose to acknowledge and alter set events from the future without the need for technological time-travel devices.

Mmm. History is a dialogue between the past and the present.
I think it entirely depends on the relationship between the student and the teacher. One can be totally invested in learning the subject and if the other isn't than it just won't work :/. I don't think you can necessarily make a subject more interesting unless both parties are willing to meet halfway, a teacher who is willing to try very hard to make a course that is interesting and stimulating, and a student/body of students who are willing to make an honest effort as far as participating and working.
How to make history class interesting? bring a pen and doodle while you take notes. I agree with Oracle that "History needs to be told".

If history class is purely facts, names, and dates then it will easily be forgotten. The best history classes i have had were taught by storytellers. If your teacher does not love the subject they are teaching , then you will be bored.
aint nothing to it but to do it
My history class in grade 10 was one of the best classes I ever took, mainly because of how fun the teacher was and that it would train your memorization skills as well as your writing skill (we had to write an essay and a couple papers).

It really all depends on the teacher because you can tell if the teacher is enthusiastic about the subject, and the students will usually put in more effort if the teacher will put in the effort.

Although there was a lot of memorization, my teacher kept it fresh by doing things to keep us entertained throughout the year such as showing us interesting documentaries, quick summaries of all the notes he makes, round the class study questions (where'd he would go around the room and ask questions in regard to what we had just learned), playing "War" By Edwin Starr as we walked into our exam, etc. Hell, we even reenacted the battle of Vimy Ridge with water baloons on a hot summer's day, and played a call of duty tournament (cod 3 of course) to celebrate everyone achieving higher than an 85% on a test, etc.

Subjects in general can be very boring depending on your preferences, but if you try and put in the effort with energy and a good vibe, it will be easier for you to listen to the teacher, you will be able to pick things up quicker, and you'll have a fun time.

History by far was not one of my easiest classes, in fact it was one of the hardest that year, but since the course was taught so well and the students actually wanted to learn the class got an above average in terms of marks, and the class itself really helped people realize that school doesn't have to be a pain, or prison that you have to go through, but rather a way of teaching you things that are stepping stones to your future aspirations and whatnot. Well this may not be the case for history because not all of us want to become historians, but this course for me taught ways to memorize things much more efficiently which was a tremendous help to pretty much all of my other classes back then as well as now.

wow that was long, but if your teacher is stale, you could always try studying with a friend so you can joke around but still accomplish your studies. The main thing to do is not day dream because I can tell you from first hand experience this pisses teachers off and they will be in a pretty bad mood not just for you but also your classmates and they probably won't be providing the best lessons either. So just stay confident and happy in that class, because if you do you'll probably go far. probably.
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Originally Posted by Ele View Post
Mmm. History is a dialogue between the past and the present.

That's true, let me explain further my meaning whilst using your expression. You say dialogue between 2 points without mentioning the third, which is the connection implied by the two, that connection being the third or future. So, if for instance you breakup with a partner over something you believe to be true (of the past) then realize later you were incorrect, does that present view not alter your current perspective of the past and so reinventing the current perspective of your reality, thusly altering the direction of your future? of course it does, and although I provided a very simple scenario people take such things for granted and fail to acknowledge what it is they are actually doing.

Technically speaking there is only 'now', and from this point we can alter both past and future, yet amusingly enough very few people live in this 'now', they are either behind or ahead of themselves. Consider how one scenario that manifested in your life that you have attempted to internally visualize over and over in different ways with differing outcomes and in the process you began to associate emotions with these things that technically never occurred in your reality, are those emotions fake? No, they're quite real, and given enough thought you can actually use these emotions to alter the internal content to the degree that you will believe that the false visualizations are more real then those that were real, and in so doing you change what was and what will be.

Hopefully that made things a little clearer, reality is anything but concrete and factual.
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Thats like the story of the person and the snake.
" a person was walking through a forest when they tripped over a snake. they freaked out and sprinted out of the woods. They didn't realize that it was just a piece of a rope that caused them so much fear."

History helps puts things into perspective. Thats why there are new history books published every year.
aint nothing to it but to do it
@OP
It depends on you and your teacher 50/50.
If the teacher can present the topic in an interesting fashion while you give enough of a damn about the class to memorize important details and make the connections necessary to form a coherent view of how the world came into being the thing it is today, then yes, it's awesome.
I'd ditch everything pre-19th century not directly related to major events in recent history, though. I couldn't give less of a crap about Qin Shi Huangdi and what he did (I'm Hungarian, China is pretty darn far away.).
For you Americans: History taught around the world is more than 10 wars, a genocide and an economic depression, so it can and will get overwhelming sometimes when the teacher expects you to learn the name of every Polish resistance fighter pre-Soviet occupation. (Just an arbitrary example, but reflects how it's done sometimes.)

Originally Posted by Endomyst View Post
-tripping balls-

Yes, History is censored. But it's not a subject where your or others' opinion matters. You have the material presented to you, describing what happened and what were the repercussions. That material may or may not be accurate, it may be told subjectively and could contain outright false information. But strip it all down and you'll understand what's went down and what is going on.

History is a powerful propaganda tool. Just an example: it puts a heavy emphasis on how fascists and communists put people in camps and worked them to death/straight up murdered them. It puts less emphasis on how the Germans and Russians took the idea of concentration camps from the British. Guess who won WW2 AND the Cold War.
Anyways, just question what you hear. There's truth behind the lies.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
There's no point in learning history if you have no interest in it.

Exactly this. All of you saying it depends on the teacher, yeah the teacher can make it a little more entertaining, but you can't teach history to someone who has absolutely no interest in it.
I'm in 10th grade and I hate this years history class. My teacher this year is a completely biased feminist, knows nothing about how to teach probably and doesn't know how to use her inside voice or how to deal with students. She just tells us to work on a google doc from some half-assed questions she got from the internet.

Last year I loved history. Our teacher read out segments from mein kampf to us, he would tell us why things happened and what effect they had (such as Germany invading poland). He would just generally be really involved in the lesson.

So basically, the level of interest I have is based on how involved the teacher is with the lesson. It could be the same with you, so your teacher may or may not be very good.