HTOTM: FUSION
Originally Posted by KillaPone View Post
One of the most destructive virus existing right now. Will it fade or will it stay?

At least describe the virus adequately. It's far from the most destructive virus out right now, it's killed only slightly more than 3000 people this year and infected anywhere from double to triple that amount. Malaria will go on to kill around 600,000 people this year and infect around 200 million. Sure, the death rate is higher on ebola, but that's due to the poor medical infrastructure moreso than the actual virus' capabilities. We have a pill for malaria, and it's still going to kill over 60 times the projected death toll of the ebola outbreak.

The only reason people are panicing now is because it spread out of Africa and was no longer a poor black people problem. No Western country or global governing body did anything about the ebola outbreak until the American doctor contracted ebola. Then white terror started and now pharma realizes the market for an ebola drug is there. Ebola was discovered in the 1960s and virtually no research into a vaccine or cure was performed until recently.
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From what ive heard is that all the people that had it got cured and one guy in Dallas is in Isolation, I have also heard its only in one city in the U.S.A, aslong as people from the U.S.A dont bring it to Canada/Mexico we are all gonna be fine. Humanity will live on.
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I think we are all going to be fine, as long as its isolated in Africa and cases in other countries are isolated its all good. But what really concerns me is that in the US we apparently didn't test the people coming back from Africa and we let the guy out of the hospital "on accident"
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Originally Posted by Viraly0 View Post
I think we are all going to be fine, as long as its isolated in Africa and cases in other countries are isolated its all good. But what really concerns me is that in the US we apparently didn't test the people coming back from Africa and we let the guy out of the hospital "on accident"

Because you can't tell if somebody has ebola before they show symptoms without blood tests, and even the most advanced blood tests have a high likelihood of missing a person infected with ebola during the incubation period because there just isn't enough virus in the bloodstream to be detected, and they have no symptoms during the incubation period. And before somebody panics over this, no, ebola is not infectious during the incubation period. Only when symptoms start showing is ebola transferable.

And fever + diarrhea + vomiting + headache are very common symptoms for diseases in general, and frequently occur together. It's not unlikely that somebody not looking specifically for ebola would misdiagnose the symptoms for a bacterial infection or the flu. Hence why all ebola cases reported use blood tests to affirm that it's the ebola virus and not a different disease.
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Originally Posted by Redundant View Post
Uh, that is how mutations happen in general. Viruses don't copy themselves, they require a host for reproduction.
Nor do those mutations happen every time they reproduce. That would be actually good for us because most mutations have either no or a negative effect.
Please don't spew bullshit all over the place. Your source also contradicts your statement. I also don't suggest you use words you don't seem to understand.

He was more or less correct, ego, mutations occur about once every 50kbp (kilobasepairs) in viruses. Viruses don't have proofreading or correction enzymes like eukaryote cells do. Viruses don't copy themselves, but they use an RNA template, a reverse transcriptase and the cell machinery of the host to reproduce themselves. Any DNA/RNA replication system has errors, and the RNA-Polymerases from viruses even more so. It does happen every time they reproduce.

Not sure where his source contradicted him.

But, the mutations in ebola won't be a problem in this particular outbreak. It makes for problems in viruses like HIV, because transmission of HIV is much more rampant and many different strains of HIV already exist now.
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Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
At least describe the virus adequately. It's far from the most destructive virus out right now, it's killed only slightly more than 3000 people this year and infected anywhere from double to triple that amount. Malaria will go on to kill around 600,000 people this year and infect around 200 million.

Malaria is a parasite, not a virus. :P

The common flu, however, kills far more people every year.
There are very many viruses that are lethal and exist around the world. Ebola is just particularly interesting at the moment.
I don't think it is a case of "We will all be alright" or "We are going to be devastated". I think it is probable that it can be contained and kept under control in 1st world countries with a very low death rate. However I also think that there is a not inconsiderable chance that it will spread uncontrollably for a while and the death rate will not be as low. Either way lots of people will die and it will have a pretty sizeable economic cost to return the world to normal. Sorry that my opinion is not more informed.
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Originally Posted by Redundant View Post
Malaria is a parasite, not a virus. :P

The common flu, however, kills far more people every year.
There are very many viruses that are lethal and exist around the world. Ebola is just particularly interesting at the moment.

My bad, but my point that ebola isn't as dangerous as people make it sound still stands. There are many more destructive communicable diseases out there.

That being said, it's captvating the news because of a combination of things. One, the death rate is particularly high because of poor medical infrastructure. Two, because of that, and good ol' fashioned paranoia, quarantine has been less than successful up to this point, exasperating the problem. And three, like I mentioned before, nobody had worked on a vaccine or cure for ebola, so it looks like we're caught with our proverbial pants down.
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Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
My bad, but my point that ebola isn't as dangerous as people make it sound still stands. There are many more destructive communicable diseases out there.

and the only reason why ebola is considered the most dangerous atm is because we don't have a cure/vaccine for it.
Once there was a time when smallpox was still around. Technically it still is, but you never see it anymore despite how dangerous it is.
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If that were the case, then we should of considered it dangerous for the past 50 years. We've known of ebola since the 1960s. Like I said previously, it has nothing to do with the actual virus and more whom the virus is infecting. Nobody cared when it was a bunch of poor Africans in the 60s, and nobody cared now until a white doctor was infected. Then it was suddenly the super virus of the apocalypse, if peoples' reactions to it were an accurate litmus test of threat level.
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