If you remove greed, lust, ambition, negative emotion and fear from the equation, while giving society a set of guidelines, they wouldn't be failures since they would be obedient, tranquil, and intelligent. Some sort of industrialist socialist empire would form and proto-humanity would reach the stars.
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An attitude shift towards what? Consumerism? Capitalism is built off the exploitation and corruption of the human condition, i.e a prison with invisible walls. There will never be a perfect world with the current system. I don't see how communism (see: world peace) would be "un-necessary" either.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
I don't see how socialism or communism are necessary.
Just an attitude shift is all that is needed.
An attitude shift towards what? Consumerism? Capitalism is built off the exploitation and corruption of the human condition, i.e a prison with invisible walls. There will never be a perfect world with the current system. I don't see how communism (see: world peace) would be "un-necessary" either.
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Not to go too off-topic here but all these systems for Capitalism to Communism all work on paper as an idea but in the end humans are super fallible so getting rid of the things that make us human COULD work out great, but on the lesser end, leave us in a world without all its beauty like the world in 'The Giver'
You see feelings like pain and trauma etc are gateways to showing compassion and love etc leading us back to a sort of universal balance where good and evil balance out.
I'm also an advocate for Communism in some part (minus the mass murder associated with the idea) but really I can't see a world that is truly perfect, I don't know, it's hard to imagine after millennia of failure. Do you really think now can be the time? Based on whats going on around us, I think not. That doesn't rule out the future possibilities though.
You see feelings like pain and trauma etc are gateways to showing compassion and love etc leading us back to a sort of universal balance where good and evil balance out.
I'm also an advocate for Communism in some part (minus the mass murder associated with the idea) but really I can't see a world that is truly perfect, I don't know, it's hard to imagine after millennia of failure. Do you really think now can be the time? Based on whats going on around us, I think not. That doesn't rule out the future possibilities though.
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Originally Posted by Zking
If we found a way to alter human nature, there would be no abuse of the system due to lack of greed and ambition.
Yes, but the circle has to start somewhere. Once it's in place it's a different thing, but how do you put the system in place from the start?
You see feelings like pain and trauma etc are gateways to showing compassion and love etc leading us back to a sort of universal balance where good and evil balance out.
Yes, i don't think we should remove core emotions. The problem with humans are that they're not adapted to our modern society. That's why we have discrimination, prejudice and violence. Emotions is still essential to us for making art and being intelligent generally.
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Originally Posted by Lazors
Yes, i don't think we should remove core emotions. The problem with humans are that they're not adapted to our modern society. That's why we have discrimination, prejudice and violence. Emotions is still essential to us for making art and being intelligent generally.
Emulations of emotions and actually feelings emotions are different bro.
Art is a mere emulation of emotion (most of the time).
Originally Posted by king4life
I'm also an advocate for Communism in some part (minus the mass murder associated with the idea)
Do you really think now can be the time?
The mass murder association stems from ignorance as there has never been a real world application of communism.
No, we're not ready at this point. With time and effort we will be.
Originally Posted by Lazors
Yes, but the circle has to start somewhere. Once it's in place it's a different thing, but how do you put the system in place from the start?
Non-corruptible individuals such as myself would have to set the course in motion and then watch the results, theoretically.
Originally Posted by Velair
Emulations of emotions and actually feelings emotions are different bro.
Art is a mere emulation of emotion (most of the time).
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