Original Post
New Competitive Esport Rank System
This ranking system that I present hopes to bring Toribash to a new level of competitiveness, it aims to reward skilled players for fighting other skilled players. The current ranking system does not reward skilled players, instead it rewards those who farm worse players than themselves.
How does it work?
It works using the current elo system but instead it forces players to fight those stronger than them. Therefore only the best will be able to get to the highest rank.
For now the current ranking system can stay and this additional "Esports" rank can also be in place at the same time. This will allow the new ranking system to be beta tested over a period of time and if successful then the old rank system could be removed.
Separate "Esport" ranked lobby's should be programmed to auto change the mod after a period of time (24 or 48 hours). This is because the most skilled players can play in a variety of mods.
The mods for the lobby's should be decided on community input.
Here is a suggestion of mods that could be scripted to auto change:
Mon: Lenshu3ng.tbm
Tue: ErthTKv2.tbm
Wed: AikidoBigDojo.tbm
Thur: Boxshu.tbm
Fri: Greykido.tbm
Sat: Rk-MMA.tbm
Sun: Boxshu_Mushu_V2
Multiple servers should be set up and restricted based on the new "Esport" rank. In addition Tiers 4 - 5 would also have a 1,000 QI restriction. Tier 6 would have a 2,000 QI restriction and Tier 7 would have a 3,000 QI restriction. This would be to prevent alts and act as a motivation to play the game and gain enough QI for the lobbys.
Lobby tier 1: Rank 50,000 +
Lobby tier 2: Rank 35,000 - 50,000
Lobby tier 3: Rank 35,000 - 15,000
Lobby tier 4: Rank 15,000 - 5,000
Lobby tier 5: Rank 5,000 - 1,000
Lobby tier 6: Rank 1000 - 250
Lobby tier 7: Rank 250 - 1.
The new rank could be displayed in a way like :
The way this rank system is set up should not require to much effort to implement as it uses a lot of the settings that are already in the game.
Long Term Aim
If this ranking system was successful then it has a lot of potential for the future. The old ranking system could be totally removed if people think that is best.
For the long term, "Esport" ranks should be reset every month (Seasons*) therefore it is a battle each month to gain the #1 spot and this keeps it highly competitive. A reward system could be added for players who achieve certain ranks as well as achievements. Some of my ideas are that top 16 players would receive a special non-trade-able 3D item that would be different depending on what "Season" they won. TC or forces / laxes could be rewarded for getting to certain Tiers. E.g. Vampire force for getting to Tier 3.
Data could be collected and Nabi Studios could use information such as the top 16 players in each season to plan world championship spots.
Potentially players could click on other players names to find out information about there best previous season rankings or even a leader board could be added to the menu where players can view statistics about who is the best from what season etc.
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Please feel free to give feed back on this system, and point out any flaws and improvements that could be added.
How does it work?
It works using the current elo system but instead it forces players to fight those stronger than them. Therefore only the best will be able to get to the highest rank.
For now the current ranking system can stay and this additional "Esports" rank can also be in place at the same time. This will allow the new ranking system to be beta tested over a period of time and if successful then the old rank system could be removed.
Separate "Esport" ranked lobby's should be programmed to auto change the mod after a period of time (24 or 48 hours). This is because the most skilled players can play in a variety of mods.
The mods for the lobby's should be decided on community input.
Here is a suggestion of mods that could be scripted to auto change:
Mon: Lenshu3ng.tbm
Tue: ErthTKv2.tbm
Wed: AikidoBigDojo.tbm
Thur: Boxshu.tbm
Fri: Greykido.tbm
Sat: Rk-MMA.tbm
Sun: Boxshu_Mushu_V2
Multiple servers should be set up and restricted based on the new "Esport" rank. In addition Tiers 4 - 5 would also have a 1,000 QI restriction. Tier 6 would have a 2,000 QI restriction and Tier 7 would have a 3,000 QI restriction. This would be to prevent alts and act as a motivation to play the game and gain enough QI for the lobbys.
Lobby tier 1: Rank 50,000 +
Lobby tier 2: Rank 35,000 - 50,000
Lobby tier 3: Rank 35,000 - 15,000
Lobby tier 4: Rank 15,000 - 5,000
Lobby tier 5: Rank 5,000 - 1,000
Lobby tier 6: Rank 1000 - 250
Lobby tier 7: Rank 250 - 1.
The new rank could be displayed in a way like :
The way this rank system is set up should not require to much effort to implement as it uses a lot of the settings that are already in the game.
Long Term Aim
If this ranking system was successful then it has a lot of potential for the future. The old ranking system could be totally removed if people think that is best.
For the long term, "Esport" ranks should be reset every month (Seasons*) therefore it is a battle each month to gain the #1 spot and this keeps it highly competitive. A reward system could be added for players who achieve certain ranks as well as achievements. Some of my ideas are that top 16 players would receive a special non-trade-able 3D item that would be different depending on what "Season" they won. TC or forces / laxes could be rewarded for getting to certain Tiers. E.g. Vampire force for getting to Tier 3.
Data could be collected and Nabi Studios could use information such as the top 16 players in each season to plan world championship spots.
Potentially players could click on other players names to find out information about there best previous season rankings or even a leader board could be added to the menu where players can view statistics about who is the best from what season etc.
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Please feel free to give feed back on this system, and point out any flaws and improvements that could be added.
Originally Posted by FistofLife
Not only that but I have never seen anywhere a position advertised as a coder etc / is it possible to make a code for this with the knowledge a normal user has access to?
Most the people who've done work on TB were either normal users or staff that know how to code etc.
We all know the current system sucks, but the lack of man power kinda kills any chance of changing it unless someone steps up to do it.
Until then you could work out the maths & all that junk for it, when the chance comes it's more likely that a system that's been fully detailed will be used because faster to do etc.
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Why don't we post an announcement and see how many knows c++(?), and are willing to collaborate on something. I've seen people collaborate on scripts and stuff so there must be a few people who's interested.
As fistoflife said, there's nothing that says "coders wanted" on the front page, and it's possible people don't want to be a part of nabi because of time issues and stuff.
As fistoflife said, there's nothing that says "coders wanted" on the front page, and it's possible people don't want to be a part of nabi because of time issues and stuff.
Brendan (he who passeth judgement on the frequent changing of signatures): I don't do hentai anymore
Originally Posted by sir
There are no forum coders now that can code "big stuff" afaik as Fish stopped coding several months ago and hampa is pretty busy to do everything himself.
Moreover, changes to ranking system were suggested since the moment it was implemented, so everyone who is "in charge" is aware of all the problems current system possess. Unless there is a worthy forum coder who isn't lazy to fix the system nothing will change, so if you are not one of such people, posting these suggestions is completely pointless.
This is true. Hampa is a coder indeed, but hampa had said it himself he doesn't code the "big stuff." This suggestion for the ranking system is better because alt accounts don't deserve to have big rankings and farming is another 1 which is pretty terrible.
Sir, if that worthy forum coder can be found, then we could be having a little fun with a coder that isn't lazy, but does the job.
