Another good example of the ever-fluid definition of feminism:
Ok sure, let's play a game then. You list how many times feminism has advocated for men and for each one I'll list a time that feminism has advocated specifically against men. You get a bonus point if you can name 1 time that feminism has solved a male problem.
I know a lot about feminism mate, so this will be an interesting game.
The movement that routinely attacks masculinity, male rights, male problems and chants slogans such as "kill all men" are actually pro-men huh, who'd have thought.
Originally Posted by Ruadhan
As for this, feminism does not have just focus on females you should know this if you're going to discuss the subject. Granted that a faction of whiney women might make you think it's all female focused because they never seem to mention how it is also good for men.
Ok sure, let's play a game then. You list how many times feminism has advocated for men and for each one I'll list a time that feminism has advocated specifically against men. You get a bonus point if you can name 1 time that feminism has solved a male problem.
I know a lot about feminism mate, so this will be an interesting game.
The movement that routinely attacks masculinity, male rights, male problems and chants slogans such as "kill all men" are actually pro-men huh, who'd have thought.
<Faint> the rules have been stated quite clearly 3 times now from high staff
Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
Another good example of the ever-fluid definition of feminism:
Ok sure, let's play a game then. You list how many times feminism has advocated for men and for each one I'll list a time that feminism has advocated specifically against men. You get a bonus point if you can name 1 time that feminism has solved a male problem.
I know a lot about feminism mate, so this will be an interesting game.
The movement that routinely attacks masculinity, male rights, male problems and chants slogans such as "kill all men" are actually pro-men huh, who'd have thought.
Everything incorrect with your post has been put in bold to make it very clear. Hmmm where to start, it doesn't seem like you read my post at all. Just like how extremist jihadis do not represent the entire muslim faith, Men-hating women do not represent feminism, like I've already said. I'm not talking about misandrists who are anti-male that claim to be feminists, I'm talking about it's ideals. How a man being raped is to be taken just as seriously as how a woman being raped is, how a man being beaten by his wife is just as serious as the other way around. You know absolutely nothing about feminism, you only know a thing or two about crazy feminazi's.
Oh I can't wait to hear this one, how does feminism attack masculinity, male rights and male problems? What male rights are under threat of being infringed by it?
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Originally Posted by Ruadhan
Everything incorrect with your post has been put in bold to make it very clear. Hmmm where to start, it doesn't seem like you read my post at all. Just like how extremist jihadis do not represent the entire muslim faith, Men-hating women do not represent feminism, like I've already said. I'm not talking about misandrists who are anti-male that claim to be feminists, I'm talking about it's ideals. How a man being raped is to be taken just as seriously as how a woman being raped is, how a man being beaten by his wife is just as serious as the other way around. You know absolutely nothing about feminism, you only know a thing or two about crazy feminazi's.
So you are going to just brush away any criticism with "they aren't /real/ feminists"? How about you go ahead and define feminism and give me a metric for how to judge if someone is a real feminist then, as I have already said many times in this thread.
Also, the fact that you can't name even a single thing feminism has done for men or even tried to do for men already sets the tone for the conversation. Your claim is false and you aren't even trying to defend it.
Originally Posted by Ruadhan
Oh I can't wait to hear this one, how does feminism attack masculinity, male rights and male problems? What male rights are under threat of being infringed by it?
The most obvious example is that feminists decry any male rights movement. Naturally I expect you will say "no they aren't real feminists" though! And naturally I will ask you for proof of any feminist movement supporting any male rights movement, which I expect you will totally ignore as you ignored my request for proof above.
<Faint> the rules have been stated quite clearly 3 times now from high staff
Originally Posted by RedPanda
I find it quite annoying how you don't hear so much about masculism as you do feminism.
I feel like each sex has their good points and bad points, this is one of those things that is hugely bias.
I do hate how Tumblr has changed the meaning of feminism and how it literally promotes feminism to be hateful towards males when in-fact feminism is more of looking for equality.
Here's a few examples
Good feminism, supports both sides
Bad feminism, aka feminazi
Yes, I agree with Panda. There are good and bad sides to feminism. One being more towards women, and one thinking more towards both sides of the situation. For me, I don't think feminism is important at all and should be ignored in society these days. Most of them make extremely rude comments or want more than men. For EX: Somewhere in Asia (I think South Korea), the government gives larger parking spaces to women in malls because they have a risk of getting raped. Another obvious EX: The US Government and many others have it so if a man touches a women's breasts accidentally, society is going to hate on "said man." If a woman touches a man's penis, society is barely even going to care one bit. Yes women and men are different beings, yes getting kicked in the tesicles hurt, yes giving birth hurts. But does it matter? No. Feminism is extremely unimportant, but major issues for feminism is important, being "Women should get to vote." Or "Women should get equal pay as men in the same job."
RedPanda won't fuck his dog
I am gonna say something, but because I may not be as educated as you people, it may be stupid.
As far as I understand it, feminism is, by definition, a movement for women rights, not for equality. Their are trying to "catch up" to men without getting any of the disadvantages of being a male. Mostly employed in harder, more physical jobs, as an example. Total gender equality (what feminism claims to be) would be egalitarianism, or not?
As far as I understand it, feminism is, by definition, a movement for women rights, not for equality. Their are trying to "catch up" to men without getting any of the disadvantages of being a male. Mostly employed in harder, more physical jobs, as an example. Total gender equality (what feminism claims to be) would be egalitarianism, or not?
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