Well that's your belief.
I think early man realized the vast nature of all the universe cannot be understood. Can you imagine the entire universe? No? It's so big, we've only been able to approximate and say we can't imagine it all. God is in the same bin. So vast.
You talk about universe and multiverse like they're simple things, but really it's quite impossible to imagine it. This is part of the reason I use "All". I don't see how you can accept that there is a deity that is bigger than "All", where "All" is all that exists.

I didnt say it was bigger, just said not within it. Thats a different think, a human is not bigger than the group of all stones, its just totally different and you cant meassure a man by the same thinks as a stone. I cant imagine god or its nature, but that just doesnt bother me, i cant imagine a lot of thinks. My opinion is only that god has no length wide or hight neither a mass nor an amunt of energy, hes thereby not part of our universe. Similar to the laws of physics (or nature laws, dunno whats the better translation), they undoubtable exist, yet still cant be considered a part of the universe, can they? (i dont know about the term 'all' though, if youd say yes here, we actually share the same opinion, i guess)
Idk why i feel easy speaking of multiverse, maybe its my nature as a mathematician, its clearly defined what it is, so its an easy definition. Thats prolly why im not using 'all' as i have no idea of how it is exactly defined.

well we will never come to any conclusion here, your belief is vial and i cant find any way to convince you, neither do i fell the need to do so. So i guess were fine here

Very nice reasoning and makes perfect sense.I just am athiest so i dont beleive in any diety. Be carefull with threads like these.

Their shouldn't be debates on God. Either you believe he exists or he doesn't. ...Simple

Yes, Humans and stones are different, but they are all just made up of atoms right? Everything is just energy. If "All" contains all energy, that means nothing can exist outside of it. How can anything exist outside of all that exists?

Vx7: I think it's not a matter of whether God exists or not, but rather what God is. It's a difficult concept, and I'm afraid people have tried to make it easier by personifying Him (see, just did it there). Why do we make God like us? Is it because it's hard to imagine what it's like to be anything else? Or is it the opposite; why is there a tendency to think of ourselves to be like God, but not all powerful?

It's unfortunate that people have limited themselves to two choices. No, indescribable things can't exist. Yes, but we are unable to be aware of it's nature. Maybe technology has fooled us into believing we know how it all works, except for God. Well we don't know. I can show you that with a simple question: How much energy is there in all that exists?

My bad...

We refer to God as a him, because males are by default the superior gender(I don't mean it in a sexist way) for example we are know as Mankind. Its not that we're trying to make God like us.

Hope I made sense...

Im sorry, but i disagree totally, there is no "superior" gender. As there is no "superior" skin colour, ect.

okay, enough with that. Him/Her, it doesn't matter. Some people think of god visually kind of like the classical paintings. big dude with white beard. If you don't, then you might fall into one of those two options I mentioned.

Dude! You even highlighted the part that said "I don't mean it in a sexist way"
I'm not sexist I was just saying that but there is a distinct difference between male and female but lets not get into that...

I know i highlighted that, but saying that it as good as saying every black person should be enslaved, but you're not racist or look down upon them.

Anyway, this is FNugget's thread, if you want to discuss further, go to pms.