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But is the X better than the Z? Seems backwards? Also Immortal thx for the suggestions! I want Super-Overkill Performance and will go full retard buying more High-End stuff than I need if I need to :3 And I have no budget ^_^ In a monitor I want clear color, clear images, and HD HQ Capabilities. And 4/8/16/32gb RAM is max right? And each slot can hold 4GB correct? And WTF is a mobo? XD Lemme just say real quick my brain is having a hard time taking all this info in and my brain is very fast so yeah...Anywhoo back on topic, yeah I will buy the product with the highest performance even if it's only a bit better than it's predecessor and twice the price or more, with that in mind please feel free to edit my list at the first post and add Preferred etc. that I may have left out and put the Cooling and LED shiz on it too XD I can't PROCESS this :3 It'd be easier in list form first and then maybe we explain the items 1 by 1. I need names of the highest performing products of that certain item. I'll be using my PC for Gaming and Recording and Streaming including Facecam so it needs to be epic, also I'm getting 200mbs internet so it can keep up ^_^ Thx Ezeth too Also Immortal wanna join FC & follow up wanna join my YT Recordings? (Vids will upload in 15s prolly XD). Answers in List Form then Explaining why they are the best of that certain item type and then the pcpartpicker would be the easiest form for me to understand P.S. Oh and Ezeth thx for the saving money tips but I kinda wanna splurge and create a beast ;)
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Acer are considered low quality, and eMachines are their 'budget' range basically. I wouldn't recommend especially when you are throwing that much money around. Are you buying a prebuilt then adding a GPU? Doesn't make much sense to me, your PSU and mobo will not work very well.

Zen:Wow a low end extension of a low quality company XD I must aswell buy a Zoof while I'm at it instead of an iPod XD I thought it was just slow cuz Laptop but I still love it anyway Ah good memories Yes I'm gonna build it now so no prebuilts, lemme just say I really appreciate your help in this Immortal

You shouldn't use 12gb of RAM either, most mobos have 4 slots which means you should use 4/8/16/32gb of RAM. The more the better, so it depends on your budget.

Zen:Budget non-existent in this timeline & universe.


6th gen Core i7s are coming out this year so if you chill you can get something much better than you otherwise would be able to get. At the moment it looks like 2h this year, perhaps 3q even.

Finally the titan z is outperformed by the x, and generally the x is cheaper too. I really wouldn't recommend the z!

How much money are you looking to spend? Looks like you have a lot to throw around.

Zen:As much as possible XD And yes I do ;) P.S. I don't want a expensive shitty product like Beats though XD I want the highest performance unit of that item type regardless of price ;)

I'm guessing you are going to burn about $2k.

Zen:Actually I want to spend indefinitely and in a disregarding fashion as long as it's the best of it's item type as far as performance goes.

For SSD you want to fit your OS on it at least, but if you want to fit other things on it then it needs to be bigger obviously, 1TB SSDs run around $400 so they are quite affordable in a high end build.
The two current best case designers IMO are fractal and Lian Li.

Zen:Which is better in performance?

You could also consider stuff like water cooling, extra fans, dust filters, LEDs if you like rice...

Zen:Wat rice?


About headphones; http://installgentoo.wikia.com/wiki/Headphones
There's many guides out there, this one is rather comprehensive and even covers why Beats are bad.

Zen:Great but I need a name XD I ain't gonna read all that, at least not right now but thx anyway XD.

Zen:Also Idk what half the stuff is so please explain anything missing on my list and what it does.


I made the things big if I liked how they sounded :3 I liked the 1TB part cuz it's memory obviously, a lot of it and it sounds expensive and high performance and for some or most people impractical
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Also Fractal looks cool.
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Also I need Models not just Brands k guys? E.g. Fractal R3 Silent Series rather than Fractal. And if anyone knows any faster Internets than 200mbps please speak now.
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P.S. Ezeth it's not about spending money like a maniac, it's about top performance and creating a beast. ;) And Immortal your totally gonna get a gift for your help when I get back from Vacay and Warm-Up to my TBSkillz Again ;)
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Also you know those like 1TB Storage Cubes? I wanna know which one is the best as far as performance goes ;) I might need some extra storage for stuff.
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Oh and also which ones has the biggest memory, or both if possible Imagine how convenient it would be if the Highest Performance Storage Cube would also be the one with most Memory O_O Oh yeah game face on baby! P.S. Do you know any guys who make custom cases for monitors? I kinda want mine to say THE BEAST in Capital Letters and an ASUS Fashion :3 You can try to Sue me if you want ASUS but you don't own the font nor is it trademarked or copyrighted XD
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OMGOMG YES YES!!
https://www.komplett.no/samsung-105-...-qm105d/841966
AND AND AND
http://www.boxxtech.com/products/apexx-5
OMGOMGMOG

I can probably create a pc for you for 10 million dollars but what is the point?
and 200 mbps internet is far from the fastest internet in the world. In South Korea they have 1 gbps for everyone and in minneapolis a limited amount of household has 10gbps that is 10000 mbps for you kiddo.
now come down from your high and think reasonably, you must be trolling with these comments, I have no idea why I typed this comment its clearly a waste of time.
I swear I'm not trolling XD Also 10,000,000$ PC sounds good if it's high performance. Also what's the fastest internet then?
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https://www.komplett.no/samsung-105-...-qm105d/841966
Dafaq is dis!? SUCH A WASTE OF MONEY!
http://www.boxxtech.com/products/apexx-5
This looks nice though and 36 cores wtf? Also What if I placed that samsung shit on the side of my computer just with a giant dick shaped building on it 24/7 XD
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http://www.autobytel.com/bugatti/veyron/
Oh this'd be nice to sit on and I could use the motor for my PC and hope it doesn't blow up XD
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this is my personal opinion, but going for some 980 sli may be better than going for a single titan.
the titan x is pretty new, and haven't seen enough days for a superbly stable card. i'm sure there will be downloadable updates and all which would get it to the top, both in performance (i know the titan is the best gpu out there) and stability.
the 980 have seen some days, and therefore may be slightly more stable.
when it comes to benchmarkings, i'm not sure how much more powerful the titan is.
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Originally Posted by ZENBOY123 View Post
But is the X better than the Z? Seems backwards?
Yeah the X is benching better as far as I know
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-...ce-GTX-TITAN-X


In a monitor I want clear color, clear images, and HD HQ Capabilities.
If you prioritise image over speed then something like a Dell Ultrasharp would be a good bet

And 4/8/16/32gb RAM is max right? And each slot can hold 4GB correct?
Usually a mobo has 4 RAM slots (some have more) and you want to evenly fill them. So you either have 1gb sticks so 4 total, or 2gb sticks so 8 total, or 4gb sticks so 16 total or 8gb sticks so 32 total. Depending on the motherboard you can have over 128gb of RAM. DDR4 comes in up to 32gb sticks at the moment, so if you have a x99 motherboard then you can have 128gb of RAM if it supports that much. But I'm not sure that any consumer motherboards do, but some do have 8 slots so you can put 8x16gb=128gb in it if you want.

And WTF is a mobo? XD Lemme just say real quick my brain is having a hard time taking all this info in and my brain is very fast so yeah...
XD it's kind of a big topic so there's lots to learn haha. Mobo = motherboard

I can't PROCESS this :3 It'd be easier in list form first and then maybe we explain the items 1 by 1. I need names of the highest performing products of that certain item.
Computers start at $100 and there's no limit to price. If you wanted to spend a million dollars you could, so naming the top component is harder than you think since it needs to be reasonably priced

Also Immortal wanna join FC & follow up wanna join my YT Recordings? (Vids will upload in 15s prolly XD).
Link your YT

Also I need Models not just Brands k guys? E.g. Fractal R3 Silent Series rather than Fractal. And if anyone knows any faster Internets than 200mbps please speak now.
A lot of stuff is subjective like that Fractal case, any of their models will do so just pick whatever looks good :P


Also you know those like 1TB Storage Cubes? I wanna know which one is the best as far as performance goes ;) I might need some extra storage for stuff.
memory cubes? I've not heard anything from the consortium in a while, but samsung make 3d nand which is 'similar'. Performance in 3d nand is top quality

Wat rice?
rice is still like LEDs that look 'cool' (if you like the look of them) but don't do anything. Some people like rice, others don't. I don't personally, my machine is 100% antirice... otaku keyboard, crt monitor, 20 year old case, etc

Some components get very expensive high end. For example moving from the i7-5820K to the i7-5960X goes from $350 to $1000. Of course, there are also CPUs that cost $3500 or $5000 or $10000...

Ram goes from $10 per gb at the low end, all the way to $30 per gb when you get high up. So 4x4gb will cost $150 but 8x8gb will cost $1000. As before, RAM can go up and up and if you get certain parts that support insane amounts of RAM you can easily spend $10,000 on RAM.

SSDs can be around $0.50 per gb for SATA but if you want a really really fast one they jump up to $6 per gb for a PCI-E ssd.

If you want to stream then maybe you want a dual computer setup, so you don't lose any FPS ingame from recording and watching chat etc. In that case maybe a dual computer case like http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-d666/ would suit you.
Maybe an open case would be neat http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-o7s/
There's infinite choices for case, it's mostly personal preference.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
Some pretty ridiculous components in this ey.

Originally Posted by Hours View Post
this is my personal opinion, but going for some 980 sli may be better than going for a single titan.
the titan x is pretty new, and haven't seen enough days for a superbly stable card. i'm sure there will be downloadable updates and all which would get it to the top, both in performance (i know the titan is the best gpu out there) and stability.
the 980 have seen some days, and therefore may be slightly more stable.
when it comes to benchmarkings, i'm not sure how much more powerful the titan is.

Telling someone who doesn't know what a mobo is to get SLI tho. Is SLI that reliable now days that beginners do it?

Ah well I jumped on that wagon and suggested 980x2... I like the idea of a titan x system tho
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Telling someone who doesn't know what a mobo is to get SLI tho. Is SLI that reliable now days that beginners do it?

i didn't read any previous post except the first one. excuse my lazyness, but since most information was stated in the first post, i based my own post from that one.
if you're suggesting to a motherboard with mobo (you have to be), of course i know what it is.
and no, it isn't reliable enough. but really, as long as you know the basics of computer building and power usuage yadayada, you should have the experience to atleast look into sli.

i'm not saying the titan isn't cool. it really is.
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I want Speed and Image for a Monitor, also I caught on to the motherboard but forgot to post, And is there a High-Performance Mobo with 8 slots that can hold 256gb? If so I kinda want a name :3 Also don't worry if it's overpriced as long as it's the best performing product in it's category since I am disregarding cost and am only interested in performance ^_^ Also Hours I like your opinion and the fact that your not objecting the high spending unlike Ezeth :3 Also the X came after the Z? And here's the YT Link - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuY...nG-cqDsDj9_WPA It'll be active when I get mah new PC, also duel comp would need x2 computers not just monitors right? I guess I might need to build 2 beasts of equal power :3 Also I'll check out rice and yes there is a lot to learn XD And yes some bananas components XD And Hours he meant me not understanding Mobo initially not u ;) And 10k$ CPUs and above are still good as long as they are HP(Lets say HP starting now instead of High-Performance cuz I say it a lot and typing is tiring.) ^_^ I think that covers everything and replies to most XD Idk what SATA, SLI or SSD or DDR4 is :3 And benchmarking=fps?
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Also this: https://www.komplett.no/samsung-105-...-qm105d/841966
Is still retarded XD
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224.4 GB/s bandwidth is insane in the compbrain XD
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Oooh and Open Case is cool and so is the dual one and the fractal :3 I'll decide or buy all 3.
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Some might say I'm compensating for something but my Schlong is actually quite big for my age ^_^ Also I still need power supplies n stuff I think XD Highest wattage and speed and HP and efficiency of course but not in electric bills I mean in efficiency in delivering the power efficiently and fast :3 And in an HP Manor ofc Is this one any good? http://www.fractal-design.com/home/p...plies/edison-m
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Also I was confusing Fractal with Fans XD I like their Fans not their Cases ^_^ I don't dislike their Cases though XD I like the Open Case though of Lian Li and it's convenient I'll get to see all the expensive shit(components) I bought XD
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Also I did the math and the GTX TITAN X is 25,000,000TC assuming it's 2.5k$ but I can't seem to find where I can order it XD 336.5 Bandwidth on the TITAN X :O
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You won't be able to get 256gb of RAM on a consumer board, you'd have to go server for that. And even then 256gb of RAM would cost around $5,000 assuming it's actually good RAM. Are you sure you are looking in that kind of price range?

The X is benching better than the Z, and it's cheaper and newer. The actual letter Z being after X in the alphabet doesn't matter :P

If you go a dual PC build then usually one will be your main computer and the other only for recording, you wouldn't need to make two equally powerful because then your main computer will be underpowered and your secondary will be overpowered. It's more efficient to spend as little as you can on your secondary and make your main as powerful as you can.

SATA = Serial ATA, it's the interface that most harddrives and SSDs use, it's not as fast as PCI (doesn't have as high bandwidth and a few other reasons).
SLI = using multiple graphics cards, so instead of 1 titan X you could have 2 or 3.
SSD = solid state drive, it's like a harddrive but made out of components more similar to RAM or a thumb drive, there's no moving parts. They are much much faster than harddrives.
DDR4 = the newest kind of RAM to become available on the market, it's faster and has more cutting edge features basically.
Benchmarking = testing to see how good components work in the real world, that's the way we compare two components eg CPUs or graphics cards to each other. Numbers are all well and good but because there are many differences between different components it's not always obvious which one will perform better and in what situations. For example sometimes a slower CPU with less cores will outperform a faster CPU with more cores, basically because it's more efficient so even if it runs at half the speed if it's three times as efficient it will still be faster in practice.

I doubt you would have any problems with a fractal PSU, but usually you would buy one from a company who specialises in PSUs. I posted a list earlier; http://i.imgur.com/tgrbCnr.jpg
We don't actually know how much wattage you need, so you don't need to pick one yet. Also there's efficiency ratings that go from "80+" (the lowest rank), "80+ bronze" all the way up through silver, gold, platinum up to "80+ titanium". This is a measure of the efficiency, but it's a general indicator of the quality too - of course it's no substitute for real world inspection and testing which is why we also consult a list like the above to find a suitable PSU.


Is there any kind of ballpark or upper limit to your spending? Would you literally be able to buy a $100,000 computer? Would you even want to?

I'm ok with explaining anything you want to know and helping with choices, but it's impossible really to make any good suggestion without knowing what kind of price range.

For comparison, a usual good computer would cost about $1000, and for an amazing awesome computer $2000. And like I said before, there's absolutely no roof, you can spend $10,000, $100,000 or $1,000,000 and still have room to upgrade... Not to mention new components come out yearly that you can buy to upgrade further.
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What on earth are you using this computer for? If it's some serious blending get several computers and separate it between them Jesus H Christ.

If you're using it for gaming then all of this is really just not needed... 256Gb of RAM?? What the ever loving fuck? For a very VERY high end machine 32Gb is more than enough.

If you want a beast and you have money to burn. Spend about $2000, then just buy new models as they come out so you constantly have top of the line new shit. Not waste thousands on hardware that will be obsolete in a few years.


For videos, I'd go the Nerdcubed route. Get a fucking beast of a case, put all your important shit in one bit. That's for gaming and the likes. Then have a smaller server computer for uploading and rendering.
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Originally Posted by neko View Post
If you're using it for gaming then all of this is really just not needed... 256Gb of RAM?? What the ever loving fuck? For a very VERY high end machine 32Gb is more than enough.

really, editing videos and gaming at the same time would be below 32gb ram.
i mean, really. when i use after effects (use it, not play around with. push it to it's limits, sorta), it takes around 3.2gb ram. i can't imagine any other editing program taking much more. (maybe 3d high-end-rendering may go up to 4-6gb ram)
with 256gb ram, you could probably run every app there is, and any game, without the computer going slow. don't get 256gb.

Originally Posted by ZENBOY123 View Post
Also I did the math and the GTX TITAN X is 25,000,000TC assuming it's 2.5k$ but I can't seem to find where I can order it XD 336.5 Bandwidth on the TITAN X :O

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-D.../dp/B00BIUKH04
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