People enjoy the psychoactive effects of alcohol for various reasons. It provides a sense of relief and disassociation from reality. A sense of adventure or perhaps a spiritual search is often given as the causative reason for alcohol consumption.
If people have problems in their life I don't see why a simple escape from reality is a problem. Yeah, it can be a health problem, but it's their choices that matter. If they feel that it can help them, then i'm all up for someone trying alcohol.
Also yes people do enjoy the taste of alcohol. Just like some people think water has a taste and others don't. Everyone has their on taste.
If people have problems in their life I don't see why a simple escape from reality is a problem. Yeah, it can be a health problem, but it's their choices that matter. If they feel that it can help them, then i'm all up for someone trying alcohol.
Also yes people do enjoy the taste of alcohol. Just like some people think water has a taste and others don't. Everyone has their on taste.
Yes, I am sure I enjoy the taste, not the experience - there have been times when the alcohol was the only good thing going on. As for enjoying intoxication, no, I do not, nor do I believe it is "biologically smart" to be intoxicated. And yes, alcohol is definitely more dangerous than water. That was never meant to be disputed. The point was merely to point out the gross over-simplifications in Moataz's post.
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Originally Posted by Solax
Disclosure: I drink alcohol and the below are all just my personal opinions.
Your post reads like you're a little kid sitting with his arms crossed unwilling to change his mind and challenging people to go against his view. Sort of wish you'd come here with an open mind to raise discussion but oh well. Try someplace like this next time you make a thread in the style of this one.
yeah i know what u mean, but uhh, no. I think i have a bit of phobia to get stuck on a point of view and be unable to understand others. So im always questioning every fuckin thing, sometimes is not fun/cool at all.
Originally Posted by Solax
Why do people drink? You answered that in part throughout your post. Social lubrication, peer pressure or my addition; maybe some people do enjoy the taste or the feeling of intoxication.
Yes, that also could explain the reason; some people enjoy the feeling of intoxication. And I wonder if that is something intelligent.(seriously i just wonder)
Originally Posted by Solax
I can see how you draw parallels to the monkey video but I think that, again, you're disregarding the fact that not everyone is a mindless fucking sheep. Even people who start drinking due to pressure, influence or curiosity don't keep drinking for that same reason. They come to realise "Hey this is a pretty good feeling. It's nice to chill with some drinks and talk to people."
Or "Huh, I never really liked bitter drinks but this craft beer is pretty damn tasty."
Yeah it happens. Some people drink with 'moderation' and enjoy the chill moments with their mates.But also, there are some people who drink and do a plenty of things that most of them will not end good(in a healthly way) or 'all chill'.
I drank several times when I hangout with some bros. I have never been drunk, but I've been dizzy and stuff. I recently see, that we had to drink to be comfortable in places and be 'chill'. then I thought, why do I need a drink that fucks my health(and sometimes causes me intestinal problems) and makes me addictive to it, to be 'comfortable' or 'chill'? Do I really depend on a drink to have fun or be chill?
I feel that this could be compared with an anarchy country. In a random situation, some people will not going to kill the people who don't like, but others will simply blow the shit out of them. And, what do you think the act of killing will be treated? Is it good or bad? Stupid or justifiable? Should be permitted or not?
Last edited by Jodus; Sep 20, 2015 at 05:42 AM.
Reason: i suck at english
Fair enough man; I'm sad to hear you get health issues and felt possibility for addiction from it. I know it affects everyone differently and everyone has a different view on it.
I'll still argue on the behalf of alcohol users though - even though alcohol is inherently harmful there are still lots of people who enjoy it and can use it sensibly.
Intelligent? Maybe. Maybe not. That's subjective though and we'll never both agree on that.
Also I didn't really understand the analogy at the end sorry. :s
I'll still argue on the behalf of alcohol users though - even though alcohol is inherently harmful there are still lots of people who enjoy it and can use it sensibly.
Originally Posted by Jodus
Yes, that also could explain the reason; some people enjoy the feeling of intoxication. And I wonder if that is something intelligent.(seriously i just wonder)
Intelligent? Maybe. Maybe not. That's subjective though and we'll never both agree on that.
Also I didn't really understand the analogy at the end sorry. :s
Some drink alcohol to mark special occasions. Others a matter of taste, like wine and some just enjoy drinking a beer every now and then. On the flip side there are also people who abuse it or fall victim to it. At the end of the day it just comes down to the drinker: their maturity, responsibility and additivity.
I see nothing wrong with just enjoying alcohol every now and then.
I see nothing wrong with just enjoying alcohol every now and then.
