The plane was in Turkey's airspace for 15 seconds.
Aircraft are usually granted a leeway of about a mile or so into another nation's airspace before they are escorted out by the country's jets, solely because of the speed aircraft travel at.
It seems as if Turkey hastily reacted because the pilot was doing something they didn't particularly like, such as bombing their sponsored terrorist group(the turkmen brigade) and the oil trucks
It's very well known that Turkey's PM is in league with ISIS. Erdogan's daughter owns a hospital that has been claimed to solely treat ISIS fighters, and his son owns a transport company that has provided them with vehicles and other such aid, which is why they have a shitload of brand new toyotas. The turks do not want a kurdish state to form, so they will back ISIS.
What will likely happen now is the Kurds will receive a tremendous amount of material and aerial assistance from the Russians.
Aircraft are usually granted a leeway of about a mile or so into another nation's airspace before they are escorted out by the country's jets, solely because of the speed aircraft travel at.
It seems as if Turkey hastily reacted because the pilot was doing something they didn't particularly like, such as bombing their sponsored terrorist group(the turkmen brigade) and the oil trucks
It's very well known that Turkey's PM is in league with ISIS. Erdogan's daughter owns a hospital that has been claimed to solely treat ISIS fighters, and his son owns a transport company that has provided them with vehicles and other such aid, which is why they have a shitload of brand new toyotas. The turks do not want a kurdish state to form, so they will back ISIS.
What will likely happen now is the Kurds will receive a tremendous amount of material and aerial assistance from the Russians.
Hoss.
Originally Posted by Hyde
The plane was in Turkey's airspace for 15 seconds.
The fact that even in Turkey's potentially bullshit reports they think that 2-3km / 15 seconds is justification for destroying a plane and the rescue chopper is proof that Turkey are just full of shit.
I hope NATO hang em out to dry.
Originally Posted by WeooWeoo
I think it would make sense to shoot them down (with all this ISIS stuff)
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Explain this to me, why should the existence of ISIS mean that it makes sense to randomly shoot down other people's planes? If anything, wouldn't that be a reason to shoot at ISIS, not the people who are fighting them? Or you are pro-ISIS?
Last edited by ImmortalPig; Nov 25, 2015 at 12:00 PM.
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Originally Posted by Dinis
After this, Russia sent helicopters to search for the downed jet, and one of those also got shot down.
Basically Turkey told Russia to stop killing Turkish civilians in Syria (even though they claim they're only killing islamists) and to stop entering Turkish airspace to do so. (source)
A lot of things relating this incident have been happening. If you want to read some more on it:
1, 2, 3
Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
Turkey are idiots. NATO has been posturing for war for a long time but they probably don't actually want war right now. Really who would authorise such a strike without considering the consequences and without aiming for a diplomatic solution.
Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
The fact that even in Turkey's potentially bullshit reports they think that 2-3km / 15 seconds is justification for destroying a plane and the rescue chopper is proof that Turkey are just full of shit.
I hope NATO hang em out to dry.
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Explain this to me, why should the existence of ISIS mean that it makes sense to randomly shoot down other people's planes? If anything, wouldn't that be a reason to shoot at ISIS, not the people who are fighting them? Or you are pro-ISIS?
Russia shoots turkmen people. not isis. too many civils died there. i dont think this will cause ww3 because when you dont mind 10 warnigs and keep breaking borders and got shoot from ur butt there's no ice dildo politic rules to cool it down. Thats not a war reason. And didnt hear that chopper story. its probably bs.
This wasnt a mistake, wasnt a random move. its revenge of our people given to our hands from russia itself
Leon The Black
Originally Posted by IBlackleon
Russia shoots turkmen people. not isis. too many civils died there. i dont think this will cause ww3 because when you dont mind 10 warnigs and keep breaking borders and got shoot from ur butt there's no ice dildo politic rules to cool it down. Thats not a war reason. And didnt hear that chopper story. its probably bs.
This wasnt a mistake, wasnt a random move. its revenge of our people given to our hands from russia itself
The Syrian Turkmen Brigades are hardly civilians. They're trained and fully equipped terrorists trying to bring down the Syrian government. Turkey is directly responsible for arming them due to their closeness with turkmenistan.
The plane did NOT breach any international regulation regarding airspaces. Turkey jumped the gun big time. The plane was within the 2 mile buffer according to the radar releases.
If this wasn't a mistake, then it's an act of war and Russia should nuke the turk scum into the stone age. Erdogan signed his own death warrant by fucking with Putin.
Hoss.
Originally Posted by IBlackleon
Russia shoots turkmen people. not isis. too many civils died there. i dont think this will cause ww3 because when you dont mind 10 warnigs and keep breaking borders and got shoot from ur butt there's no ice dildo politic rules to cool it down. Thats not a war reason. And didnt hear that chopper story. its probably bs.
This wasnt a mistake, wasnt a random move. its revenge of our people given to our hands from russia itself
Firstly, if you are aggressive terrorists I really don't care about your ethnicity. I hope you are happy because your precious turkmen not only shot at the pilots as they parachuted out (illegal combatants don't have to follow the geneva conventions, I'm sure you will argue...) and executed one of the pilots.
Allegedly 10 warnings with no response (hint, if a pilot doesn't even acknowledge you hailing them, then they probably can't hear you)? Obvious bullshit. Russia did not previously threaten Turkey's border, they have no proof that drone was Russian and their "kill on sight" policy is clearly meant to start shit with Russia.
One of the rescue helicopters was shot at by turkmen (wow protect the peaceful turkmen!) killing a marine, and forced an emergency landing, the helicopter was then destroyed by the FSA.
Turkey has been actively supporting ISIS, and has now even attacked people who are fighting them. How can anyone think this is acceptable?
Russia has relocated a missile cruiser to the area and is flying escorts, so it is safe to say that if Turkey try any cute shit again then they can expect at least a proportional response.
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