Originally Posted by FistofLife
ISIS is funded my USA... ISIS will keep going on for as long as the US wants them to, which will either be the break out of WW3 (Russia and the west, since tensions are getting very high) or the total destruction of middle east .
The real threat is the west, which is just pure evil. (Not the individual brainwashed people but the "masters" who control the puppets, the puppets being David Cameron, Barrack Obama, etc).
America was behind 9/11 along with many other so called "terriost" attacks. No doubts the Paris attack was also some what planned, giving how conveniently it was timed and the suspicious circumstances surrounding it.
Ideas like this is why problems keep coming up.
If ISIS were funded by the US, then the US would not be destroying oil rigs, because those oil rigs are 75% of the reason they are still even bothering with the Middle-East. Sure they have a shitton of money to blow, but they ultimately want to fucking profit from this. Counter-Terrorism is the US' best bet to getting the oil in the Middle-East for themselves.
Saying the west is pure evil is ridiculous. There is no illuminati, new world order bullshit controlling the world. Otherwise you would see the same messages all over the world, and you would want the entire world to be the same, not so radically different.
Bush would've found a reason to go to the Middle-East one way or another. Security was so fucking lax at the time that I'm amazed they didn't get away with more planes. There were probably terrorists who spent years infiltrating the government in order to help bring down the twin towers and e.t.c. but that's it. gg terrorists, you got away with one global event and thats it. Yes, because America would risk severing bonds with the rest of the world by attacking their allies, for what gain?
Fucked up conspiracies like this hold society back and don't let governments do their job. How do you expect them to get anything done when 50% of the population doesn't trust them because the public doesn't know everything that happened that day so you all just look for patterns that don't exist and then think that you've figured it all out. pls just stop trying to be clever and realize that the only patterns there are, are the ones that you make up.
ISIS will just continue fighting until they are ultimately killed. They are already mostly defeated, but they're extremists who won't change. After that another group of extremists will crop up who have diluted the meaning of The Quran and think that this time they will succeed in taking down America. It's just going to be a never-ending cycle because conditions are so poor in those countries that the young will be influenced by current extremists who later go on to die "for Allah" and the young people will just go do the same thing. Personally, I think the only way to actually completely stop Middle-Eastern extremists is to go in, and separate children from adults in the country because that is literally the problem. Seems ridiculously cruel, and it is, but the entire reason it won't stop is that you have this stupid cycle of mis-interpretation.
We had a debate about this in class today, during the debate an girl tried to use these conspiracies, putting quotes around the words bombings and 9/11 (its just a slight coincidence she was Islamic).
Conspiracies are often created by propaganda that you see everywhere and if you have found yourself believing the propaganda you have fallen into a trap. Most of these those things are made by people trying to scare the complete shit out of you or turn you against a certain "thing".The same tactics ISIS uses in its recruitment videos.
But what I don't understand is how you are fighting a holy war by bombing people? Exactly, just as poop said there not as strong as people think they are. These people use "jihad" as a way to un around and spread fear into people. People are just buying what they're selling.
Conspiracies are often created by propaganda that you see everywhere and if you have found yourself believing the propaganda you have fallen into a trap. Most of these those things are made by people trying to scare the complete shit out of you or turn you against a certain "thing".The same tactics ISIS uses in its recruitment videos.
But what I don't understand is how you are fighting a holy war by bombing people? Exactly, just as poop said there not as strong as people think they are. These people use "jihad" as a way to un around and spread fear into people. People are just buying what they're selling.
Originally Posted by Dscigs
ISIS will just continue fighting until they are ultimately killed. They are already mostly defeated, but they're extremists who won't change. After that another group of extremists will crop up who have diluted the meaning of The Quran and think that this time they will succeed in taking down America. It's just going to be a never-ending cycle because conditions are so poor in those countries that the young will be influenced by current extremists who later go on to die "for Allah" and the young people will just go do the same thing. Personally, I think the only way to actually completely stop Middle-Eastern extremists is to go in, and separate children from adults in the country because that is literally the problem. Seems ridiculously cruel, and it is, but the entire reason it won't stop is that you have this stupid cycle of mis-interpretation.
I really agree with you at your fist point(look two posts up), but their goal isn`t just to take down the great country that so many call USA. ISIS is posting on social media and one if those things was a plan, which had their new names for countries such es egypt, audtria serbia, bosnia and so on. So I think they want to make the whole world belive in their religion (or what they think their religion is).
And DON`T SEPERATE THE CHILDREN FROM THEIR ADULTS. This will only mess them up (imagine a childhood without adults), they will hate the goverment for that (you all know what happens if they all hate the goverment).As far as i know the terrorists come up to your door and either the boys come with them or will be killed (how does that deal sound, huh?).
Last edited by Ukephile; Dec 12, 2015 at 05:38 AM.
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Originally Posted by Ukephile
And DON`T SEPERATE THE CHILDREN FROM THEIR ADULTS. This will only mess them up (imagine a childhood without adults), they will hate the goverment for that (you all know what happens if they all hate the goverment).As far as i know the terrorists come up to your door and either the boys come with them or will be killed (how does that deal sound, huh?).
When I say separate children from their parents, I mean to have them live in America with foster families, and also obviously not teenagers, more younger kids who won't really remember the difference. In either case, it's still bad, but necessary in a sense. We didn't initiate this fight.
Originally Posted by Dscigs
When I say separate children from their parents, I mean to have them live in America with foster families, and also obviously not teenagers, more younger kids who won't really remember the difference. In either case, it's still bad, but necessary in a sense. We didn't initiate this fight.
To start with, you have no power whatsoever in separating a child from his family. It does not matter the conditions of life the kid will have, because to the law, that is illegal. Also, the US does not want those kind of children in their country, so it will never be an option.
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