Originally Posted by hipotibor
I think SmallBowl was referring to the nature of the game. Can you please ellaborate on how an overly complicated game of rock-paper-scissors can be competitive / require skill ? It's like saying that Hearthstone is an actual e-sport. Skill only gets you so far when you have no idea what your opponent is going to do. It comes down to who made the right guess.
Not really no, lets look at for example the TK league I hosted. Granted it fell apart because people cant have the patience to play 2 matches a week, and my ambitions were maybe too high, but meh that's besides to point.
I won all my games and only almost lost, 5-4, to Killer336 who is considered one of the best players in the game. Sure I lost some games, but when its first to 5, the better player wins almost always. Im not arguing there are no random elements in the game, sure there are. But to say that poker isn't a viable competitive sport, just because it has random elements is just stupid. If the game is as random as you say, why was the scoreboard kind of as expected, with same people having the top stpots as expected?
TB wont be a balanced game around best of ones, that's the whole point.
With your amazing arguments we could just say "poker is random, no skill, cant be competitive"
Originally Posted by hipotibor
Or,you know, if you're that much dissatisfied with the game and the work of the Devs/Gms, why don't you just play a different game that is more tailored towards your MLG skills ?
Sadly that's been the case lately.
To Bowl:
"Also this thread is for giving suggestions on how to improve the system not to fling hate at the GM team for not getting it how you wanted first time. "
I tried that for almost a year, with many other players. We got ranked rooms with Taido. You've read the threads, there's not much to add to it. At this point I don't even care anymore about "proper feedback", you are doing a shit job when it comes to the ranked stuff and that's it. Monthly resets, taido and 3000 ranked rooms. Nobody asked for those things, yet you made them. Why are you expecting for us to give ideas when you wont listen to them. Thats just retarded.
Last edited by cowmeat; Dec 22, 2015 at 03:45 AM.
Originally Posted by cowmeat
Not really no, lets look at for example the TK league I hosted. Granted it fell apart because people cant have the patience to play 2 matches a week, and my ambitions were maybe too high, but meh that's besides to point.
I won all my games and only almost lost, 5-4, to Killer336 who is considered one of the best players in the game. Sure I lost some games, but when its first to 5, the better player wins almost always. Im not arguing there are no random elements in the game, sure there are. But to say that poker isn't a viable competitive sport, just because it has random elements is just stupid. If the game is as random as you say, why was the scoreboard kind of as expected, with same people having the top spots as expected?
TB wont be a balanced game around best of ones, that's the whole point.
With your amazing arguments we could just say "poker is random, no skill, cant be competitive"
Sadly that's been the case lately.
To Bowl:
"Also this thread is for giving suggestions on how to improve the system not to fling hate at the GM team for not getting it how you wanted first time. "
I tried that for almost a year, with many other players. We got ranked rooms with Taido. You've read the threads, there's not much to add to it. At this point I don't even care anymore about "proper feedback", you are doing a shit job when it comes to the ranked stuff and that's it. Monthly resets, taido and 3000 ranked rooms. Nobody asked for those things, yet you made them. Why are you expecting for us to give ideas when you wont listen to them. Thats just retarded.
Again im not saying im not trying, but that it isnt suited.
youve never tried speaking rationally, thats a lie. We all know the original ranked system was rushed, and didnt have all that much input many people. But what youre saying is extremely dumb when you have actually seen a suggested update with all the things you have mentioned patched. Bringing up things you know are being fixed where you have agreed with the proposed new solution and saying "look the old system is bad so all GMs are retarded and dont try or care!!!!" is pretty dumb.
I would listen to your ideas if you ever had a meanigful, constructive input rather than "this thing is bad, FUCK YOU GMS"
Last edited by SmallBowl; Dec 22, 2015 at 11:19 AM.
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I actually agree that the tournament should be best of something other than 1. Anyway that's not the point, the point is that rank is supposed to signify the best players. The top ranked players currently are most definetely not the best players. If you want ranked to work at all the staff needs to take it more seriously. There are good players who don't even bother with ranked because it has no real significance, and the only reason I play it, is to get the tc from winning the tourneys. Ranked isn't competitive, nothing about it is, and that's the problem.
Edit: Close your parentheses smalls.
Edit 2: Why is taido2 still in the game.
Edit: Close your parentheses smalls.
Edit 2: Why is taido2 still in the game.
Last edited by Grim; Dec 22, 2015 at 11:18 AM.
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Originally Posted by Grim
I actually agree that the tournament should be best of something other than 1. Anyway that's not the point, the point is that rank is supposed to signify the best players. The top ranked players currently are most definetely not the best players. If you want ranked to work at all the staff needs to take it more seriously. There are good players who don't even bother with ranked because it has no real significance, and the only reason I play it, is to get the tc from winning the tourneys. Ranked isn't competitive, nothing about it is, and that's the problem.
Edit: Close your parentheses smalls.
Edit 2: Why is taido2 still in the game.
It is not really possible within the power of the GMs to make ranked/tournament matches in game more than best of 1. The reason the best of 3 match is so low in the end of moth tourney is that the resets are so frequent. A low number of fights per fixture makes it possible for the tournament to sit neatly within a season. (As I have said, in the patch I drafted, season length is increased so this will be fixed).
Despite this there is still strong positive correlation between rank and level of player, this is if you take all of the 2000 odd players who are actually ranked. If a good player tries to get their rank up they could get themselves up near the top fairly easily, the same is not true for a weaker player. The problems only begin in this regard within around the top 50 ranked players, there is no point counting players who play very few games in the season because they have not tried the system and therefore are obviously not going to have a high rank.
Summary: although at the top the ordering may not be quite right there is a good correlation between rank and level, and this should improve if the patch is implemented, largely because of the segregation of ranks to prevent farming.
Edit: as for taido2, it is set to be removed as soon as the next patch exists.
Last edited by SmallBowl; Dec 22, 2015 at 11:35 AM.
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So at first I hated the old Ranking system. But at least The rankings wasn't only in ranking severs or in Tourneys.
I tried to play in tourneys now, The tourneys are no longer fun, Everyone shoveling snap kicking trying to play as dirty as they can just to win the highest rank they can get To win and I don't see this fair enough.
I tried to play in tourneys now, The tourneys are no longer fun, Everyone shoveling snap kicking trying to play as dirty as they can just to win the highest rank they can get To win and I don't see this fair enough.
REALLY