Original Post
Updating Uke Bot/Tutorial
Sorry for the big wall of text, but please take your time to read this.
New players join Toribash daily and we want to keep them interested in the game so they won't quit.
When you register a new account you are taken to a tutorial. It explains the game and tells the control, basic things. I'm in love with this game and I always tell my friends to download it and to get familiar with the game. Once they begin playing, they almost immediately lose interest to the game.
I created a new account, just to see what impression Toribash makes to new players. I've noticed the tutorial has changed, but it's not entertaining/informing (based on my friends' reactions to the tutorial and my own).
They do attempt making the tutorial interactive with take pre-done moves and then asking the new player to extend knees, ungrab, etc. I don't think moves like that truly represent the beauty of Toribash.
We can all agree aikido/physics is a big part of Toribash, but they're absent during the tutorial. The tutorial only makes a mere dent in all the things we can do in Toribash, but the new players don't know that, making them lose interest to the game.
The tutorial needs to show them aikido. Show them sweeps, lifts, suplexes, etc. They could even show real life examples during the tutorial(like a clip or something). This will open up a connection between a game and physics that no other game can show. This will interest new players to continue playing the game.
The tutorial can go through how to make tc. Even though there are threads and videos on this, the tutorial needs to show the player or give them easier access to these topics. It does give you a link to the beginner sanctuary, but it never goes beyond that. Showing texture making/item forging to all the artists who join Toribash. The tutorial can go through forums showing the community beyond the in game servers.
They can introduce new players marketing, the events they can attend, buying, selling textures. Their inventory(activating, deactivating). Transferring tc, customizing your profile on forums, clans, orgs, all the good stuff.
I know this is a lot just for one tutorial, so they can organize it into sections. For e.g:
The in-game can go into dueling, betting, in-game commands and forums can go into the topics included in the last passage.
Uke Bot
Uke needs to be more engaged with the player, taking the player to servers, showing commands. Engaging Uke with the player, brings a welcoming vibe.
The new players tend to get lost on the multiplayer page and would usually go to a goofy mod that doesn't truly represent Toribash. If there would be a server where Uke is in hotseat and new players can join and try beating uke for practice.
Uke should have a better variety of moves in Challenge Uke and explain the moves while he is executing them.
New players join Toribash daily and we want to keep them interested in the game so they won't quit.
When you register a new account you are taken to a tutorial. It explains the game and tells the control, basic things. I'm in love with this game and I always tell my friends to download it and to get familiar with the game. Once they begin playing, they almost immediately lose interest to the game.
I created a new account, just to see what impression Toribash makes to new players. I've noticed the tutorial has changed, but it's not entertaining/informing (based on my friends' reactions to the tutorial and my own).
They do attempt making the tutorial interactive with take pre-done moves and then asking the new player to extend knees, ungrab, etc. I don't think moves like that truly represent the beauty of Toribash.
We can all agree aikido/physics is a big part of Toribash, but they're absent during the tutorial. The tutorial only makes a mere dent in all the things we can do in Toribash, but the new players don't know that, making them lose interest to the game.
The tutorial needs to show them aikido. Show them sweeps, lifts, suplexes, etc. They could even show real life examples during the tutorial(like a clip or something). This will open up a connection between a game and physics that no other game can show. This will interest new players to continue playing the game.
The tutorial can go through how to make tc. Even though there are threads and videos on this, the tutorial needs to show the player or give them easier access to these topics. It does give you a link to the beginner sanctuary, but it never goes beyond that. Showing texture making/item forging to all the artists who join Toribash. The tutorial can go through forums showing the community beyond the in game servers.
They can introduce new players marketing, the events they can attend, buying, selling textures. Their inventory(activating, deactivating). Transferring tc, customizing your profile on forums, clans, orgs, all the good stuff.
I know this is a lot just for one tutorial, so they can organize it into sections. For e.g:
- Forums
In-game
The in-game can go into dueling, betting, in-game commands and forums can go into the topics included in the last passage.
Uke Bot
Uke needs to be more engaged with the player, taking the player to servers, showing commands. Engaging Uke with the player, brings a welcoming vibe.
The new players tend to get lost on the multiplayer page and would usually go to a goofy mod that doesn't truly represent Toribash. If there would be a server where Uke is in hotseat and new players can join and try beating uke for practice.
Uke should have a better variety of moves in Challenge Uke and explain the moves while he is executing them.
Last edited by Lampito; Jan 1, 2016 at 04:22 AM.
Originally Posted by eki27
should they start a group regarding this tutorial improvement?
What do you mean? An user group sounds a bit weird, it will be easier to just keep it within the thread.
Brendan (he who passeth judgement on the frequent changing of signatures): I don't do hentai anymore
Originally Posted by Lazors
I don't do Tk so someone else will have to talk about that.
I'm kinda good at tk so I'll write some stuff.
I've attached some replays that are important so you might want to download them once you've read to the point where it says "[Replay 1 here] etc"
Kicking Tutorial
Fade from white to uke and tori standing in the Taekkyon mod.
Opening line:
"Hello! Welcome to the toribash kicking tutorial! In this tutorial you'll be shown how to play the two most popular kicking mods! Taekkyon and Erthtkv2."
"This is Taekkyon, this mod focuses on tugging and kicking!"
[Replay 'Taekkyon Example 1']
"Here you can see 2 Taekkyon replays, as you can see they are full of destruction"
[Replay 'Taekkyon Example 2']
Load back to tori and uke standing in Taekkyon.tbm
Uke holds all and contracts pecs
Player can do whatever they want
"Press space when you are ready with your move"
1 Turn progresses
"As you can see, the turn frames in this mod are very low - 10"
"This allows for precise movements, often needed for kicks and blocks."
Tutorial allows player to finish the match, uke doesn't move.
"You will now be shown a very basic counter to a snap kick, a snap kick is a 20 frame kick which can often do alot of damage quickly if not blocked or dodged"
Uke does the moves shown in [Replay 'Taekkyon Block'], player is instructed to do the moves I used, shown like the old tutorial with the glowy joints and shit.
"Good job! Since snap kicks are very common in kicking mods, you will now be shown how to parry snapkicks!"
Uke does moves shown in the [Replay 'Taekkyon Parry']
Tori is instructed to do the moves I used, like in the old tutorial with the blue joints and it not letting you click anything else
"If you grab the knee joint[Highlighted with the bluey glow] while it's being extended in both erthtk and Taekkyon, it will snap off."
"Grabs are important in Taekkyon, They can be used both offensively as seen here [Replay 'Taekkyon Offensive Grabbing']
and defensively, as seen here [Replay 'Defensive Grabbing']"
"Grabs aren't something that can be taught in a tutorial, they're something that comes with practice, singleplayer is good for practicing, but you're best off trying it in multiplayer"
Fade to white
Fade from white to tori and uke standing in the erthtkv2 arena
"This is Erthtkv2.tbm, this mod is very similar to Taekkyon, things you learned about taekkyon are still very true with erthtkv2, although you may have noticed the ring, and you're also able to hit yourself to do damage, like this to yourself, like this.."
[Replay 'Self damage']
"See that? your points just went up because uke hit himself"
Decided to go super in depth to make sure no dev who doesn't know squat about tk goes and makes a tk tutorial based of their knowledge of the mod, which is really minimal/outdated
Probably going to add some more later, just hit a block, the erthtkv2 thing needs expanding.
