Originally Posted by Zelda
"It doesn't matter who you vote for, just go vote, it is your right and you should use it."
Do you still think that that is a terrible idea?
Media is paid to be pushy to tell people to vote for a specific someone. Voting for something you are uninformed about is something i'd never recommend, and if you HAD to vote do a bit of background research on candidates to get a picture of what they really stand for, and not just vote blindly.
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Originally Posted by Zelda
I didn't mean that people would try to make others vote for something specific, usually it takes the form of "It doesn't matter who you vote for, just go vote, it is your right and you should use it."
Do you still think that that is a terrible idea?
"It doesn't matter who you vote for, just go vote, it is your right and you should use it" Is just as stupid as medias pushing for the vote of one person or party. You said it yourself, if you don't feel qualified, don't vote. Their message should be "If you can vote, study the politics of your country, understand it, and vote." (Or even "If you want to make your country a better place, understand its politics".)
And I'm sorry if I deviate a bit from the topic again, but to me the real problem is people's education, how much they really care about politics. People would care more about proving their opponent's party wrong, than making the right choice. (I remember many many occasions where two french parties would pretty much have the same goals and plans, but, since they disliked each other, were in an all out political war.)
Originally Posted by Redundant
I wish there was more direct democracy for issues like that in my country.
Yes, yes, yes and yes. Direct democracies, and social democracies, is where it's at. They're still both hella flawed, but they're the better of the worse right now.
Last edited by DashSora; Apr 16, 2016 at 05:54 AM.
Are you completely out of your mind? This is exactly the kind of deterministic attitude that's wrong with this world.
Wat. Read up on the political spectrum. Parties cater to different groups of people based on their alignment. A leftist party builds on the lower classes, while rightist parties cater to the wealthy. You can tell a great deal about a party just based on this and applies in general, it's obvious that this alone won't dictate what the party does in practice.
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...then you chose for what party people should vote according to their backgrounds? Without even taking in consideration that the politics of each parties is different from countries to countries? And omitting a large number of political affiliation too?
What I said applies in general and is in no way specific. Also, some parties were originally created to represent people of different backgrounds. There were smallholder parties and workers' parties for example, all falling to the left.
Last edited by Ele; Apr 16, 2016 at 12:25 PM.
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Jesus Christ, so the ynvaser hate has now spread to the rest of the discussion board? Grow up guys, you're acting fucking ridiculous.
It's like fucking middle school all over again.
If you're generally uninformed about a candidate but are going to vote for them anyway, I think to begin with you should get informed. I'm not sure whether it's a bad thing or not to vote uninformed, despite the negative reactions to it here, seeing as most people probably do that. If you take the percent of the population that is uninformed about all candidates and issues, and get them not to vote because of it, you're probably down to what, 10-20% of the country voting? I'm not sure having such a small population of people be the ones to decide the future of all of the rest is quite 'morally sound' either. They probably don't represent the rest of the country at all, and at least if you get everyone voting, even uninformed, they're probably voting because they latched onto a candidate who has a stance on an issue that they care about.
It's like fucking middle school all over again.
If you're generally uninformed about a candidate but are going to vote for them anyway, I think to begin with you should get informed. I'm not sure whether it's a bad thing or not to vote uninformed, despite the negative reactions to it here, seeing as most people probably do that. If you take the percent of the population that is uninformed about all candidates and issues, and get them not to vote because of it, you're probably down to what, 10-20% of the country voting? I'm not sure having such a small population of people be the ones to decide the future of all of the rest is quite 'morally sound' either. They probably don't represent the rest of the country at all, and at least if you get everyone voting, even uninformed, they're probably voting because they latched onto a candidate who has a stance on an issue that they care about.
