Secret Santa 2024
We may have made things that we don't need to survive, but we made things that make survival easier and chances of survival much more likely. We don't want to make things that get things done faster just because we're lazy, it's because we want to have more time for construction and production. Once more things are constructed and produced, once again survival chances are increased. Isn't the survival of yourself and the expansion of your species, after all, the subconscious if not conscious goal of all creatures?
R.I.P. Billy Mays
your right person. but humans deserve to die. all of them
...DIE...

and yes cars are killing us. indirectly, on a small scale the are. really.
you say we can life without cars?? without cars,boats and planes or whole economic system would crash... people couldnt get vacations to country's like spain, it would be inposseble to trade on large scale, and so on.
Originally Posted by supakiller View Post
your right person. but humans deserve to die. all of them

Yeah, you really do. Suicidial bastard. You couldn't even be thinking like this
if you hadn't evolved. But then again, there's this thing called the Darwin Award... >______________>

Originally Posted by supakiller
and yes cars are killing us. indirectly, on a small scale the are. really.

Yeah, by incompetent drivers ramming their fucking cars into other people.
The emissions aren't going to kill you unless you breathe it directly for a prolonged
period of time. And having a busy road outside your cozy house does not mean
that you're breathing it directly.

Originally Posted by supakiller
you say we can life without cars?? without cars,boats and planes or whole economic system would crash... people couldnt get vacations to country's like spain, it would be inposseble to trade on large scale, and so on.

Because economical crash sure does mean the end of mankind. Seriously.
Yes, we are materialistic, but no, that does not mean that we will die if money
disappears. Humans are adaptable. Which is why we're probably the most successful
mammals on Earth, like it or not.
<Blam|Homework> oiubt veubg
various places to find me lol
Quite, economic crash =/= end of times.

In fact, when the economy is working it's doing more damage than when it's completely broken.

If humanity hadn't evolved the potential to utilise tools, we would be "devolved" (as you put it) in our current physical state, as humans are nowhere near as effective physically as most creatures of their approximate size.

As it happens, we do use tools, nothing else uses tools to the extent that we do, ergo superiority. It's really that simple.

One problem that you've unintentionally highlighted is the concept that humans are cause for mass destruction; this isn't "devolution" as such, but rather the opposite - if any creature was as superior to everything else as humans are, it would cause mass destruction, for example, mass extinctions. For most creatures, it's the fact that they are not superior, the fact that they are not perfectly adapted to their environment or their "purpose" (for lack of a better word) that keeps them in check and stops them from "damaging the world". It's an ironic product of our superiority that we cause so much damage.
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"Call yourself alive? I promise you you'll be deafened by dust falling on the furniture,
you'll feel your eyebrows turning to two gashes, and your shoulder blades will ache for want of wings."
okey. i think that we finished here.

conclusion: i think that we came too the conclusion that we are mentally evolved but physically devolved? am i right?
Actually, no. Why? There is no such thing as devolution. Senseless Wikipedia copy-paste comin' right up:
In common parlance, "devolution", or backward evolution is the notion a species may evolve into more "primitive" forms. From a scientific perspective, devolution does not exist.[1] Lay people may see evolution as "progress", reflecting the 19th century ideas of Lamarckism and orthogenesis, but modern genetically-based biological evolution theory asserts that evolution occurs by such mechanisms as natural selection, genetic drift, and mutation, and is therefore not directional, forward or backward in time; hence "devolution" is not a valid concept.

TL;DR: Evolution is not directional, and hence cannot be reversed. Evolution is not always for the better either, but it generally is. If you have a bigger chance of surviving with a longer neck, chances are that you won't be evolving into a race of creatures with little to no neck at all. Of course, evolution is SLOW, and doesn't happen just like that, but you get what i mean.
<Blam|Homework> oiubt veubg
various places to find me lol
what you just said is this if i am correct: evolution can be both forward or backwards. we can get much smarter and call that evolution but we can also forgot everything we know and stop using tools because we dont kwow what they are and call that evolution too?