Originally Posted by JoboMan

I just read that it's closer to 3% death rate

Originally Posted by Maya

Well that's the thing... right? We don't actually know what the mortality rate is! China likely doesn't have enough data for accurate statistics yet and we should be dubious of reports regardless.

Originally Posted by JoboMan

I personally think it's man made for population control but I don't think we will ever know so all we can do is guess and believe what we are told I suppose

Originally Posted by Chilledon

I've been following this since the beginning. It's definitely being downplayed by the Chinese government. You don't quarantine 80-million people and block of roads for 3000 cases of flu like symptoms.
Current confirmed:
Infections-6170Deaths-133
Countries/Regions-20


The true infections are estimated to be around 90,000 but it could be more
This virus has a 5 - 14 day asymptomatic period which the disease may still be contracted, but this is yet to be confirmed.
Germany and a couple other countries have confirmed human-human transmissions.

the true roi and mortality rate is yet to be confirmed due to inconsistencies in the number of infected and dead.
but it looks to be around 3% mortality rates and 2-3 people for every person infected as of now.
this is subject to change within these following weeks.


This will not be an apocalyptic famine. But since it is labeled "novel" it means this is very new to us and we have seen anything specifically like it. If a vaccine is not created, it could spread and easily end up being the new common cold to deal with, especially if it reaches india and other countries with not so great healthcare and overcrowding.

The most negative things that will come (IF ANY) is a loss of a decent amount of already sick or eldery/young with weak immune systems, and economic losses.

Now to the juicy stuff.




I'm not saying we should be jumping to conclusions on this, but I have done a little research on this possibility.

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Summary: The possibility of bats transmitting coronavirus to humans is almost nil. But Wuhan's new pneumonia virus is identical to Bat SARS-like coronavirus w.r.t envelope protein, based on NCBI's BLAST (Diagram 1). So the bat virus must have undergone genetic alteration. As it is almost impossible for envelope protein to remain intact after natural mutation, the only explanation left is artificial DNA modification, possibly by the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which since 2007 has collected samples from thousands of bats across the country and done genetic experiments with them. It is suspected that China has intended to use this virus to launch a biological warfare attack on anti-CCP Hongkongers, and to destroy the USA and the free world in general. However, something went wrong in the process and the deadly virus escaped while still on the Mainland, as a result of which the culprit reaps what it sows.

Head of fauna at Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden Dr. Gary Ades (2020), an expert in bat ecology, is adamant that the possibility of bats transmitting their coronavirus to humans is close to zero. But Wuhan's novel coronavirus is capable of transmission between humans. And the envelope protein of Wuhan seafood market pneumonia virus (QHD43418.1) & that of Bat SARS-like coronavirus (AVP78033.1) are 100% identical, based on the Basic Local Alignment Search Tool (BLAST) of NCBI (National Center for Biotechnology Information, U.S. National Library of Medicine). NCBI itself (note 1) has noted the close connection between the 2 viruses. It follows that the bat virus has undergone genetic change (either artificial or natural). Yet it is almost impossible for envelope protein to remain unaltered after natural mutation. So the only explanation left is artificial genetic modification.

It was after the 2003 SARS that China began to plan the building of the Wuhan bio-safety level four (BSL-4) laboratory of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) or the Wuhan P4 lab in the Jiangxia district of the city, and the lab was inaugurated in 2018. According to CAS itself, the lab was built precisely to look into the most dangerous pathogens like the novel Coronavirus and conduct research on them. Towards the end of 2019, the mystery virus first popped up in Wuhan.

Bat SARS-like coronavirus is a virus isolated from Zhoushun bats and DNA-modified by the China Military so that it can be spread between humans. Its sequence alignment in 2018 was uploaded to NCBI (National Center for Biotechnology Information, U.S. National Library of Medicine) by Institute of Military Medicine Nanjing Command.

It is thus suspected that China has intended to use this virus as a biological weapon to genocidally wipe out true Hongkongers, who started the Anti-Extradition Law Movement or HK Time Revolution in June last year, and to attack the United States and the free world in general. However, something went wrong in the process and the deadly virus escaped as a result of which China reaps what it sows.
Indeed, the SARS virus has escaped from high-level containment facilities in Beijing multiple times, notes Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey. Tim Trevan, founder of CHROME Biosafety and Biosecurity Consulting in Damascus, Maryland, said that an open culture is important to keeping BSL-4 labs safe, and he questions how easy this will be in Communist China.
The Wuhan lab is also equipped for animal research. Studying the behavior of a virus like 209-nCoV and developing treatments or vaccines for it requires infecting these research monkeys, an important step before human testing. Monkeys are unpredictable though, warned Ebright. 'They can run, they can scratch they can bite,' he said, and the viruses they carry would go where their feet, nails and teeth do. (note 2)

In fact, the Wuhan P4 lab has carried out a lot of researches on bat coronavirus. Most significantly, around 2007, a team led by Shi Zheng-Li and Cui Jie of the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China sampled thousands of horseshoe bats in locations across the country (note 3). After finding a particular cave in Yunnan, southwestern China, in which the strains of coronavirus looked similar to human versions (notes 4, 5), the researchers spent five years monitoring the bats that lived there, collecting fresh guano and taking anal swabs (note 6). They sequenced the genomes of 15 viral strains from the bats and found that, taken together, the strains contain all the genetic pieces that make up the human version.
Staff from Wuhan Institute of Virology in 2017 also published an article entitled "Novel bat adenoviruses with low G+C content shed new light on the evolution of adenoviruses" (J Gen Virol. 2017 Apr;98(4):739-74. In a 2019 research, staff from the same institute even synthesized genetic isolates from bats from different countries and inserted the resulting product into into pUC57 vector ("Rapid and Specific Detection of All Known Nipah virus Strains’ Sequences With Reverse Transcription-Loop-Mediated Isothermal Amplification" Front Microbiol. 2019; 10: 41.

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Note 1. https://ncbiinsights.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/…/…/novel-coronavirus/
Note 2. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Chinas-lab-studying-SARS-Ebol…
Note 3. Cui, J. et al. Emerg. Infect. Dis. 13, 1526–1532 (2007).
Note 4. Ge, X. Y. et al. Nature 503, 535-538 (2013).
https://thewuhanvirus.com/
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/0...navirus-cases/
Note 5.Yang, X.-L. et al. J. Virol. 90, 3253-3256 (2016).
Note 6. Hu, B. et al. PLoS Pathog. 13, e1006698 (2017).



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21
https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/11/06/event...alth-security/

Originally Posted by JoboMan

Pretty sure they gave already traced it back to a laboratory
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https://www.davidicke.com/article/56...ling-statement

Originally Posted by Arctic

fantastic source