Originally Posted by H4rl3quin
Don't be naive and childish. Being at war is no excuse for unprofessional behavior. This is why the British forces have such a good reputation and the American forces are described as cowboys. It's not my job to tell a foreign countries' armed forces how to behave, that is reserved for the people in charge of these soldiers, but i have every right to criticize based on the evidence.
Naive and childish are hardly the words to describe me.
In fatc, the opposite. I am just fuming at the fact that a group of stupid Marines are the cause of judgement for us all.
Originally Posted by Clbck
It wasn't threat containment.You haven't matured as much as you think you have.
It very well could have been.
However, how much about me do you know to be making assumptions about me?
Originally Posted by bengerman
1 group if marines vs. entire country= judge any one in the country who wasnt in said group? rediculaious
a group of people are in a dessert in a fire fight, with there friends dying all around them and based on what what C-geek babys two, one group of ppl, who lived through stuff like that and through a puppy of a clif and you feel that you have the right to judge them or anyone affiliated with them?
Bad grammar, but point taken.
What I have been trying to convey here all along.
Originally Posted by JorreI14
Is the dog even real?
Are you serious, or is that a joke?
Of course it's real.
Originally Posted by faint
I am just about out of the community, and I lurk around the forums occasionally. The fuck? I am lurking around and right as I am about to close the page, I see this disturbing thread. I love dogs, and if that was truly a dog, I feel very bad for it. Yeah, those soldiers are sooooo cool because they can throw dogs off cliffs. Good job, purple heart? I can see that they are a little disturbed by war, but seriously, you could have just left it alone. That wasn't fucking funny either, (woops I tripped) mother fucker, woops I trimmed and dropped a god damn sledge hammer into your fucking face. Sorry, you are dead now. What the fuck is wrong with this world?...
The end of this and your examples are confusing, but I get what you're trying to say.
However, humans and dogs are not the same, so you can't compare throwing a dead dog off a cliff to killing a live human.
Humans are called humans for a reason, and dogs are called dogs for a reason.
We are different, and with different personalities.
Originally Posted by Dr_Strangelove
Just because a few soldiers have been videotaped doing horrible things, that does not mean that they all do it. They are just a group of extremely fucked up people, and you should not make the mistake of looking down on all soldiers simply for what their ignorant comrades have done.
I can actually relate to this, seeing as I have had a job that had a similarly bad, if not worse reputation for malpractice and cruelty.
I have worked as an animal technician for a medical research centre. We do not want to be cruel to animals, we actually do our very best to make sure that they are as comfortable as possible in what is quite often a very short life. Yet the image of the animal tech has been tarnished repeatedly by a small minority of sick individuals who wish to cause unnecessary pain to other living things.
As a consequence of this, every Wednesday after work I would get insulted, spat on and sometimes followed by the retarded protesters who can't seem to understand this. Anyone who generalises American soldiers in this way is also one of those retards who doesn't actually have a clue about what they are talking about.
And yet I bet that animal people have tried to joke on an exmperimental dog/animal, but the rest of you guys are very nice. I get what you are trying to say, my friend.
In conclusion, do I agreee with what these jokesters did? NO.
Do I understand where they come from? YES
^
That's why I am in defense of the Marines.
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Originally Posted by SC501
what i am saying is in this color.
They are all false, becuase you werent atually there to see it. If you believe everything you see on the internet and the news, your opinion is very horribly misguided in any irection by anything you watch or read.
so, you are saying 9/11, the holocaust, hiroshima, didnt happen beacuse we didnt see it?
Again, The dog was dead, and unfortunately, we have to shoot any freaking dog that comes near us because thelove to shove IEDs up their asses and send them to play.
DERP to you. if the american media wasnt so government-controlled, this would be a known fact. and shooting a dog is much more humane than throwing it off a cliff.
Get a clue. If you hate America so much. Why waste your time demonizing our troops and getting no where with it, and just petition your little thid world country to declare war?
DERP again. insulting someones country is no way to prove your point.
AND SLAUGHTERING EVERYONE IN FALLUJAH AFTER A FEW STRAIGHT MONTHS Of, Broadcasting via, loud speaker in their native language throughout the city, to get the fuck out, unless you are and insurgent, and want to die.
Yeah, pretty much "give up your lives, and head out into the desert"
most of them cant fit their lives into one car, if they have one.
Aha, first off, the dog was already dead, why should we waste a round to look humane?
Derp yourself...
By the way, it is a known fact, by anyone who even legitmately looks at the tactics of the enemy. Besides, if we shoot the dog, and are wrong, the owner is compisated in AMERICAN MONEY, by our worth of the dog, which has them set for some time...
DERPDERPDERP. Need i say it again? DERP.
And lastly, we had refugee camps over there they were more than welcome to, not to mention other cities dotting the desert that they had relatives in. Most of them have cars that come very cheap. So no, they wouldnt be forfieting their lives, not only that but we gave them rides in troop transport vehicles to the nearest cities as well.
Get a clue. Dont waste your precious typing fingers. My point still stands regardless, and unhindered.
Secondly, i wasnt exactly insulting their country, i merely invited them to take over.
However, what is it they say about the boot again? Ah yes, if it fits. Wear it.
And Jongi, I corrected the guys view of the bible and made it to what it really is. So if anything. I was stomping a bibile thumper for not reading his own book. Good point however, but still. Not worth a paragraph.
Last edited by Donseluke; Mar 17, 2010 at 05:19 PM.
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Anyway, to put it simply. IT IS REALITY that dogs and babies are stuffed with explosives and used as weapons. So it is only common sense, to be on the lookout for anything that can get you, or your men killed. I have only seen one, dog out of my entire military career go boom, (THAT was STILL ALIVE anyway..) The rest of them are usually corpses.
But still. Reality of it is, these people arent wearing a uniform. They can be ANYBODY. And to make sure that we can come home alive. Their friendly cute little furry creatures that wander too close will be shot on sight.
Back to the real topic. Even though the dog was dead to begin with, those marines were charged and put in the brig for it for this fact:
THEY should not have even approached it in the first place because it could have had a bomb sewn or stuffed in it.
Thats all. Not because they threw it off the cliff.
It was already dead.
Thanks to all those that ACTUALLY have any common sense out there, such as deady, CrazyGreek, and others. But i believe this topic has just about worn out, and is indeed flying onto other fualts that have slight similarities but no real connection.
ANY animals shot or blown up, and or killed via Combat knife, and were not rigged to explode, or a real risk of giving away a covert infantry position, (hence the knife.) Owners are to be found and re-compisated by an american worth of the dog with US Dollars.
It is in a Marine Corps order. Which is why officers get pissed when they shoot a dog that is not a threat, Because their unit has to stop and compensate the owner. two recieps are written and one copy is handed to the owner for a small and simple verification.
Really, there is no way of knowing the dog is a threat or not until it is already dead.
Thats all. The dog was already dead, the marines were charged for just blindly walking up to it.
Issue resolved.
THAT MY FRIENDS.. Is reality of it. So insulting me saying i am not in touch with reality only shows how sheltered of an opinion you reallly have. And how blind and inexperienced you really are. Leave the debate up to the players that are holding all the cards, the big boys.
Genki, you are a commendable opponent, but unfortunately, you still fall short of a full deck. Thanks for the debate however. I really do appreciate it.
But still. Reality of it is, these people arent wearing a uniform. They can be ANYBODY. And to make sure that we can come home alive. Their friendly cute little furry creatures that wander too close will be shot on sight.
Back to the real topic. Even though the dog was dead to begin with, those marines were charged and put in the brig for it for this fact:
THEY should not have even approached it in the first place because it could have had a bomb sewn or stuffed in it.
Thats all. Not because they threw it off the cliff.
It was already dead.
Thanks to all those that ACTUALLY have any common sense out there, such as deady, CrazyGreek, and others. But i believe this topic has just about worn out, and is indeed flying onto other fualts that have slight similarities but no real connection.
ANY animals shot or blown up, and or killed via Combat knife, and were not rigged to explode, or a real risk of giving away a covert infantry position, (hence the knife.) Owners are to be found and re-compisated by an american worth of the dog with US Dollars.
It is in a Marine Corps order. Which is why officers get pissed when they shoot a dog that is not a threat, Because their unit has to stop and compensate the owner. two recieps are written and one copy is handed to the owner for a small and simple verification.
Really, there is no way of knowing the dog is a threat or not until it is already dead.
Thats all. The dog was already dead, the marines were charged for just blindly walking up to it.
Issue resolved.
THAT MY FRIENDS.. Is reality of it. So insulting me saying i am not in touch with reality only shows how sheltered of an opinion you reallly have. And how blind and inexperienced you really are. Leave the debate up to the players that are holding all the cards, the big boys.
Genki, you are a commendable opponent, but unfortunately, you still fall short of a full deck. Thanks for the debate however. I really do appreciate it.
Last edited by Donseluke; Mar 17, 2010 at 05:39 PM.
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Protip: when you illegally invade a foreign country you don't have the right to treat the inhabitants and their property (including animals) like dirt. Sure, if the USA got invaded, you guys would have the legal right to shoot as many dogs and bomb as many cities as you want within your own country, but going to another persons home and doing that is not only immoral, but illegal.
Just thought i'd inform you of that.
Just thought i'd inform you of that.
Read my post all the way through.
