CMon's Weekly - #3: Piracy, and why you're a dick for doing it - Page 3

SLAPPED

Oct 12, 2009

SLAPPED

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Oct 12, 2009

I'm incredibly hypocritical when it comes to pirating. On one hand I slam ANYONE who downloads music illegally, while on the other hand I regularly download games. So go figure.

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Warcry

Oct 12, 2009

Warcry

Toribash Legend

Join Date: Nov 2008

Oct 12, 2009

I pirate shit for two reasons:

One, I cannot afford to pay for everything. I have no job and I am living off my savings. Getting a job is a chore in this place and at this time.

Two, I live in rural Australia. It's several hours drive just to get to the nearest music shop, which usually has nothing I want anyway. Plus CDs are $30 AUS now.

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dbuhos

Oct 12, 2009

dbuhos

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Oct 12, 2009

:U My motherfucking city is making me use piracy,no game,music,movies store on a area of 200 kilometers...and i SWEAR that.

So meh...i guess is not too cool to pirate and things but when you have to do it...

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Alphons

Oct 12, 2009

Alphons

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Oct 12, 2009

If it weren't for the possibility to download games with torrent. I would probably be outside doing something creative at this moment. But I am not, and I love IT!

There's not much developers can do to stop the cracking of games, or torrenting (not a word). But I can imagine that some time in the future they will win the "war", and we will find another way to do it.

But the best way to get someone to buy a game, is making it an online game with a CD-key authentication. F.eks, Call Of Duty , Counter-Strike, Age Of Empires 3, Company Of Heroes, Battlefield 2, and lastly World Of Warcraft. Seriously, the popularity of MMORPG's has skyrocketet. But I will probably never buy a singleplayer game. 599 norwegian kroner for a game with short replaybility is not worth it. But if I ever get a good income, ill buy Fallout 3 and Oblivion, considering the time I have been playing them.

And the day I can start downloading computers and furnitures, I will start doing it. But I will never go steal a physic object.

Also, Cmon... You are a dick.

~Alphons

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This warning was just reversed. (Lol I just got the joke) >.>
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Last edited by CMon; Oct 12, 2009 at 05:28 PM.

xDoBbYx

Oct 12, 2009

xDoBbYx

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Oct 12, 2009

I think the main reasons that people pirate are: it is incredibly easy to illegaly download films/music/games etc; from most peoples' points of view, it doesn't directly hurt anyone in particular, unlike other crimes such as robbery, GBH etc; these products are immensely overpriced and most kids (and lets face it, it's mostly kids who pirate) can't afford the quantity of products they would like.
My personal view is that I personally have no problem with piracy, as it is so easy if the product manufacturers are so pissed off over piracy, they should do something about it eg. anti-piracy codes on CDs.

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CMon

Oct 12, 2009

CMon

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Join Date: Sep 2007

Oct 12, 2009

Originally Posted by Dr_Strangelove

There's nothing wrong with it, it's like stealing a few beers from tesco.

And stealing normally isn't considered wrong? :P

Originally Posted by waphtuos

If you are not going to, would never, etc, purchase the album/game/movie/piece of art, then the artist loses nothing if you pirate it. In fact, they actual gain free publicity and face time because if it's a good piece of art you will probably show it to a friend.

I think this statement sort of contradicts itself. If you were never going to buy a piece, would you download it? Imagine a world without pirating possibilities. Would the likelyhood of buying as some form of gamble not be far higher?

Originally Posted by waphtuos

I resent that. My thread started virtually the same way.

I'm not gonna argue with Dalir's closure, although the thread was pretty much harmless. We strictly forbid promotion of piracy on site and I'm guessing that's what he feared. In any case, rather than discussing piracy, this thread is meant to be more focussed on "pirate rights" or whatever you wish to call it.

Originally Posted by H4rl3quin

Nah, i don't moralise about it being ok or not. They're out to make their money, and i'm out to save mine.

I agree. That's exactly what I'm talking about. You don't "side with pirates". It's there. You like it. You grab it. I believe it's called "buttpiracy", but if being a pirate of solidarity necessitates me to sympathize with the idiots that believe online registrations to be the work of the devil, I'd rather keep pirating butts.

Originally Posted by Alphons

But the best way to get someone to buy a game, is making it an online game with a CD-key authentication. F.eks, Call Of Duty , Counter-Strike, Age Of Empires 3, Company Of Heroes, Battlefield 2, and lastly World Of Warcraft. Seriously, the popularity of MMORPG's has skyrocketet. But I will probably never buy a singleplayer game. 599 norwegian kroner for a game with short replaybility is not worth it. But if I ever get a good income, ill buy Fallout 3 and Oblivion, considering the time I have been playing them.

I agree with you here. I find few games to be worth supporting - honestly, games are not that good nowadays and few keep me entertained more than a few days, save for the few good multiplayer games that make owning a copy a necessity.

Originally Posted by Alphons

And the day I can start downloading computers and furnitures, I will start doing it. But I will never go steal a physic object.

I don't really understand the people that resent comparisons between piracy and stealing. People have made the stuff you listen to, watch and play, and largely expect you to pay for it. The only major difference is that it's more accessible, and (therefor) more people do it.

Originally Posted by Alphons

Also, CMon... You are a dick.

Hehe, I warned you for this insult until I got the (cock)joke. Must've lost my sense of humour for a second there

Last edited by CMon; Oct 12, 2009 at 05:48 PM.

Dr_Strangelove

Oct 12, 2009

Dr_Strangelove

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Join Date: May 2007

Oct 12, 2009

I believe it isn't wrong to steal from huge companies that are probably making use of slave labour and stuff anyway.
Me stealing something small isn't gonna put them out of business, and it won't harm the paychecks of the overpayed directors of the huge corporations either.

I, however, don't have as much money to lose.

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Odlov

Oct 12, 2009

Odlov

Join Date: Jul 2007

Oct 12, 2009

Forgive me father, for i have sinned :V

Piracy is technically stealing, but i have trouble squeezing out a tear knowing that Britney Spears or Kanye West loose some millions annually to teens downloading their songs illegally. They wipe their ass with money regardless. All "true fans" will go to the store and buy their CD to support the artist. Kanye won't end up selling hotdogs, that's for sure.

Now, of course if you ever find yourself downloading songs of a poor upcoming indie artist, you are a total douchebag.

Slith

Oct 12, 2009

Slith

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Join Date: Nov 2006

Oct 12, 2009

Exactly! I only feel the need to buy CD's from local bands, cuz you know.... They play shows everyday and do nothing else to support themselves.

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Thanatos12

Oct 12, 2009

Thanatos12

Senior Member

Join Date: Aug 2008

Oct 12, 2009

Originally Posted by footside

Just a question. Is it piracy to watch a pirated movie even if you didn't pirate it?

Oh and I think piracy is bad.

Don't know where you live but in England you would be criminally liable for the crime of "reset" and in Scotland you would be criminally liable for the crime of "receiving and retaining stolen goods". If piracy is classed as stealing then I believe a pirate dvd could be classed as a stolen good. It's very questionable

Will be able to give a better answer in a few weeks when we cover it in lectures but that is my preliminary answer.

Originally Posted by Odlov

Forgive me father, for i have sinned :V

Piracy is technically stealing, but i have trouble squeezing out a tear knowing that Britney Spears or Kanye West loose some millions annually to teens downloading their songs illegally. They wipe their ass with money regardless. All "true fans" will go to the store and buy their CD to support the artist. Kanye won't end up selling hotdogs, that's for sure.

Now, of course if you ever find yourself downloading songs of a poor upcoming indie artist, you are a total douchebag.

I agree with your sentiments. I find it hard to feel sorry for for some mega-rich egotistical c**t like Kanye West.

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