HTOTM: FUSION
Originally Posted by ivolt View Post
Yes but I brought up the raven because it's a beautifuly written piece of poetry.

I agree entirely, yet would it be as beautiful without evoking our deeper feelings of terror and dread? It's different than the "emo" poems of today because it's written by a brilliant writer who knew how to tell a gripping story. Some teenage pussy loser isn't going to be able to get that kind of real emotion through their work. The best they manage is:

two shots of hate from a mouth as loud as a gun,
like an assasin ... who does it for fun.
two deafening blows in a war that has just begun,
life gone away...i'm done.
two red roses sitting on my coffin, the wind blows, leaving only one
the world i know disappears...like the setting sun.

Bleeeech.

I think an important point to make regarding the thread is that art doesn't necessarily have to be good to be art. The shit on the stick is art if someone calls it art. Whether or not it means anything to anyone, gets any kind of point or aesthetic value across, it's still art. It's just shit. Just because these poems are in the same category as other great poems doesn't mean they can't be way over in the shit end of the spectrum.

Now, if they're actually working to accomplish something or make their lives better, or even just looking at the good parts of life that are already there, then it's different. But wallowing in self-pity brings nothing but contempt from many people.
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There is nothing wrong with being emotional, but showing it through image is not the way to do it. Poetry is a good way of releasing the pain and so is cutting your wrists, but I think that's retarded. There were many, many, many "emo" Artists though the ages who have gone there and have came back. It's a phase that should stop.
Originally Posted by hydrotoxin View Post
different strokes for different folks.

this has become such a massive part of my grand-ol' philosophy o' life 'n' such. If the group of people we are talking about isn't hurting anyone, leave them alone. Don't be tripping all up in their grills. Still, I'm not saying they're all fine and dandy people. There's something wrong with everyone on this planet, and it just so happens that emos(?) and other sad people make it more apparent. I think they (and ahelluvalott of other people) could do with a little "Coach Carter" tough love rant.

otherwise: emo =\= perfect,
you (and everyone else) =\= perfect

so shut your dickhole
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People have a problem with making their own style, and people that is taking pictures and painting art just can't be gangsters.
they're stupid.

Originally Posted by Golem
"if you won't try to find coherence in the world, have the courtesy to be apathetic, instead of affecting others with your pointless actions"

i feel kinda like that, but if they won't try to find reason for their lives, well, idk how to finish that besides kill yourself.

as for the fashion, w/e. but srsly, a lot of times people have it much worse than them, but they get by. these people don't even try, they're cowards, and really stupid. it's like they see tragedy, don't understand it, and try to think they have it. wtf. some people are just stupid.
Last edited by Carlton; Nov 16, 2009 at 04:19 AM.
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actually, hitler was a artist before doing all his weird shit

Example:


harl's got a point !
<Alan> lol, rutz, it might be cool to smell your ass all the time you touch the mic



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