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Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
Generally I'm against it, but there's no single approach that works for every kid.
Some parents tend to forget the whole point and beat their kids as a form of retribution rather than corrective measure. In my ideal world, i think physical punishment should only be used in case the kid does something intentionally and contrary to your warnings (eg, not break a vase by accident). Maybe even use 3 strikes system.

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I'm all for it, ass you see the kid in this video would not act like this if he knew he was gonna get his ass beaten. shit Im 14 and my pops beats me to this day and Im an honor role student, If I was the dude in that commercial I would have popped the kid right in his mouth
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When I was younger, I got beat by my parents. After getting beat, just like a dog, I learned that whatever I was doing needed to stop. This is why I turned out better than my younger brother.

My younger brother was never beat by my parents, just mostly yelled at. Yelling at a child is not the same as beating a child, because my brother just ignores them and continues to do whatever. If my parents had smacked him, maybe he would learn not to do it.
Thats just it, Over where i am at, if you are even seen smacking your kids end just even once... ONE stroke. You go to jail and your kid i taken away and put in foster care. I walk down the road, and now i have kids that HAVE NO RESPECT for me, or my Uniform that i wear, screaming crap out the window of their cars.

Its because yelling at them wont work. And the worst part about it is, i see them as more than old enough to get their heads stomped in, but i would go to jail for a really long time for assualt on a minor.

Its because Parents arent allowed to use physical force on their children. If they started the one of two smacks on the rear with their hand at a young age, and was steady on discipline. You wouldn't get kids trying to jump you out on the street.

On the bright side, atleast parents dont beat their kids. So when the kids jump you out on the street, they get a shock when you hit them with a good ringer like your old man used to do to you.

Lesson learned. Dont screw with that Marine that walks down summerstreet. He isn't afraid to hurt you like mom and dad were.

I will not let a 17 year old kid think he can step up to me toe to toe like a man. Because i was raised so old fashioned, that it wouldn dirty my hands any to show them what will happen.

Call me wrong, but try living over here with a bunch of kids on SSI, already out of juvi three times, trying to pick random fights with people thinking they can't defend themselves.

An old homeless man was randomly jumped by a bunch of kids, and beaten to death own prostetic leg...

These kids arent kids anymore.
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I'd only spank my hypothetical children if absolutely necessary. As far as i can remember, my parents never used violence to discipline me, except for that one time where my mom slapped me in anger. Hard. But apart from that, my mom has only used (rather excessive) verbal disciplination. Maybe i'll end up going the same way as her, but i'd rather not end up insulting my children excessively over minor problems like she does. Or at least, not repeat the same insult 30 times over in one hour. Incredibly annoying.

Anyways i seem to be getting sidetracked here. Minimal spanking from me. I know it would've worked pretty well on me, but i just can't stand hurting anyone i know and love, and chances are that i'd know and love my children. In a parental way.

That being said, i still have a nasty temper, which could cause problems if i don't control it somehow.
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I was spanked only in the most severe situations, like when I knocked my brother out. I think spanking should be used as a measure of the severity of the situation. If a does something like break something, throw a tantrum, misbehave generally, a milder punishment is deserved like grounding, removing of privileges, etc. But if a child fights someone else, says something extremely offensive, strikes a person of authority, etc (more severe and extremely unwanted behaviour), then spanking is deserved. This way, the child is shocked into never repeating this behaviour again. It worked on me. Never have I fought anyone since I knocked my brother out.

Originally Posted by Donseluke View Post
Thats just it, Over where i am at, if you are even seen smacking your kids end just even once... ONE stroke. You go to jail and your kid i taken away and put in foster care. I walk down the road, and now i have kids that HAVE NO RESPECT for me, or my Uniform that i wear, screaming crap out the window of their cars.

Its because yelling at them wont work. And the worst part about it is, i see them as more than old enough to get their heads stomped in, but i would go to jail for a really long time for assualt on a minor.

Its because Parents arent allowed to use physical force on their children. If they started the one of two smacks on the rear with their hand at a young age, and was steady on discipline. You wouldn't get kids trying to jump you out on the street.

On the bright side, atleast parents dont beat their kids. So when the kids jump you out on the street, they get a shock when you hit them with a good ringer like your old man used to do to you.

Lesson learned. Dont screw with that Marine that walks down summerstreet. He isn't afraid to hurt you like mom and dad were.

I will not let a 17 year old kid think he can step up to me toe to toe like a man. Because i was raised so old fashioned, that it wouldn dirty my hands any to show them what will happen.

Call me wrong, but try living over here with a bunch of kids on SSI, already out of juvi three times, trying to pick random fights with people thinking they can't defend themselves.

An old homeless man was randomly jumped by a bunch of kids, and beaten to death own prostetic leg...

These kids arent kids anymore.

You raise a very very good point.

Because of how restricted parents are with how they can discipline their children now and are duped into believing discipline is wrong, they let their children walk all over them and run rampant, leaving them to become something other than children.

Where my mother lives, the area is very very rough, I had to study 2 different martial arts for 2 years because I was being threatened on a daily basis by people I didnt know, or had never angered in anyway, for no apparent reason. Ive had my hair pulled, Ive been punched for refusing to buy drugs from someone, Ive had full sized house bricks thrown at me, and Ive been threatened with a knife.

All this I believe is heavily the fault of the parents who raised them.

I was punished properly, and I didnt become like everyone else in my area. They use the excuse that they 'live in a poor area' and 'they cant help it, its because of where they live', but look at me? Im fine? Explain that.

It's the parents. I know people who have gotten pregnant, and Ive known from the moment they got pregnant what type of child the baby will become, and Ive been right every time. Society is predictable.

Much like Donseluke, I believe that if a kid wants to step up to me toe to toe and threaten me, I have every right to show him the consequences. If youre going to act like a man, you'll be treated like one.
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Originally Posted by m0o View Post
Discipline is necessary. Verbal discipline is not always adequate.

I don't care what the hippies say - I want my child to stay in line when out in society, not being in jail when they are 18, thanks.

If you take behaviourist theory, you will see that physical discipline is a punisher, rather than negative reeinforcement. There are certainly better ways to "correct" child behaviour (Negative reinforcement), but neither behaviourism or I think that punishers should never be used. Sometimes you need to use a punisher.

Should you smack someone elses kids? Nope!

Once again, I agree with m0o.

@ people thinking punishing kids physically is wrong, not every child is perfect and will just listen to your 'Stop doing that, or you'll be in trouble'. The whole point is that lots of younger kids (toddlers etc) like to push it, they will continue doing it until you give them the trouble you promised.

So yeah, a spank on the arm when they don't listen is the best solution sometimes, even if it makes them cry.
I've been raised like that, not because I didn't listen, it's just that I sometimes did stuff like every little kid does (draw stuff on walls/floor etc.).
Well I got hit also when I was like 5-7 but now I'm fine. I was lucky that my dad and mom were nice about it and the fact that I understood what it was for was another good thing. Some kids get spanked often for minor issues and then they aquire a fear of their parents.

If I ever have kids (which I hope for since im the last male in my family) I will nove spank them I may give them a quick swat if their touching something or if I need their attention, but I would never take out my anger on spankings I think its moraly wrong for the child and the adult.



And Maple, another way to dissapline a smaller child is too ristrict them from minor things, no candy for 2 days, no tv for a while, so on so forth. The physical abuse may turn against you if the child winds up going to school angry after a spanking and tells every one that their daddy/ mommy beat them that morning or earlier. If the teacher hears this and the child keeps telling them about the spankings/beatings, she might involve the police for child abuse.
Last edited by sampandora; Feb 11, 2010 at 03:56 PM.
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Ahhhh yes...I was spanked by my mom when I was a kid. I hate it when she used to do that....Im totally against spanking, really hitting your own child in the ass, or slapping, or hitting him with slippers....Its not the best idea to do that, unless the kid really deserves it.
Considering it's a form of child abuse, blah blah blah.
To be honest, I didn't read any of your posts, I just wanted to post this video:



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calequinn it's time to start carrying a Baton. If people always mistreat you you have to let loose sometime. Seriously no three people wanted to fuck with some guy with a 2 foot baton. What are they gonna do other than flee or get whacked in the face a couple of times with a 4 pound weapon.

Anyways, yes you wouldn't get these kids robbing other people if you hit your kids. I'm sure they would never one to get such a beating again will stop what he has done, girls get another kind of discipline.

It's also not about if you like getting spanked or not, but if you stopped doing the annoying thing that got you spanked the spanking is successful. The point is to scare you shitless out of you over the annoying thing that you are doing so it does not happen again.
Last edited by T0ribush; Feb 11, 2010 at 06:09 PM.