Thinking we need to get the Clan Council to harden up on voting.
We're letting too many clans through that are just dying off and/or becoming spammy and wibblish.
Every vote needs to be backed with strong reasoning either against or for the DSC. Being on the clan council should not just be for chilling out, then quoting someone else's reasoning and saying "yes" or "no".
Looking through the "Past Voted Clans" section, most of the votes are "Nice DSC" or "Not many spammy posts" and then that clan turns into a super spammy forum and then dies.
There are too many DSC's being made, and not enough people moving into already official clans. If we start whipping the council. I think that we'll find a huge change in that less DSC's being made, as they will start to see that it's not that easy to make a clan official. I mean, 81 official clans? Come on.
Let's go through each and every board and check up on those that are even active. Some of the most active are pure spam. We can sort this out and make the Clan-Community far less over-crowded and a lot more controlled.
Let's do this shit.
We're letting too many clans through that are just dying off and/or becoming spammy and wibblish.
Every vote needs to be backed with strong reasoning either against or for the DSC. Being on the clan council should not just be for chilling out, then quoting someone else's reasoning and saying "yes" or "no".
Looking through the "Past Voted Clans" section, most of the votes are "Nice DSC" or "Not many spammy posts" and then that clan turns into a super spammy forum and then dies.
There are too many DSC's being made, and not enough people moving into already official clans. If we start whipping the council. I think that we'll find a huge change in that less DSC's being made, as they will start to see that it's not that easy to make a clan official. I mean, 81 official clans? Come on.
Let's go through each and every board and check up on those that are even active. Some of the most active are pure spam. We can sort this out and make the Clan-Community far less over-crowded and a lot more controlled.
Let's do this shit.
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Yeah you're not the only one saying stuff. This is from the smod board.
I don't see the need to be strict like everyone wants us to because it's not actually hurting anything. At the moment I'm even thinking people are just saying this stuff cause they don't trust us to do the job. Then again, they don't have much reason to either.
But getting to the actual topic. I don't think we really want to keep all these clans who claim to be "rebuilding".
The other thing is, we have official clans which are dead but their boards are never being removed. Mad, Rawr, guru... I think it would be good to just hide the boards, while keeping them open for the members to post in. That would leave visible the clans which would actually participate in events or what ever...
And all that stuff about the council, I shouldn't matter how many times a clan is allowed to apply. Just so long they know why they didn't make it, and so long the council is consistant then it isn't a problem.
Edit: Just fixed the DSC titles. Gives us a nice index of tags and clan names for unofficial clans now.
While we're on the subject: it took me a half hour to run through all the clan boards and delete incredibly spam threads, and I bet new ones have sprung up already. It's a great place to post-whore.
I honestly haven't seen clan admins do anything at all.
Oh, except make their own terrible DSC that insults the whole clan community and then use their position to try and push it to official.
Given clans like Kingdomz that struggle on and try to whore official status, I would recommend just not letting DSC's reapply more than, say, twice.
Why do users even need to put a DSC tag? Isn't absolutely every non-sticky thread in that board a DSC?
I don't see the need to be strict like everyone wants us to because it's not actually hurting anything. At the moment I'm even thinking people are just saying this stuff cause they don't trust us to do the job. Then again, they don't have much reason to either.
But getting to the actual topic. I don't think we really want to keep all these clans who claim to be "rebuilding".
The other thing is, we have official clans which are dead but their boards are never being removed. Mad, Rawr, guru... I think it would be good to just hide the boards, while keeping them open for the members to post in. That would leave visible the clans which would actually participate in events or what ever...
And all that stuff about the council, I shouldn't matter how many times a clan is allowed to apply. Just so long they know why they didn't make it, and so long the council is consistant then it isn't a problem.
Edit: Just fixed the DSC titles. Gives us a nice index of tags and clan names for unofficial clans now.
Last edited by Fish; Mar 22, 2011 at 12:13 AM.
Originally Posted by Fish
Yeah you're not the only one saying stuff. This is from the smod board.
So if there are others saying it as well, why do we not do something about it?
Originally Posted by Fish
I don't see the need to be strict like everyone wants us to because it's not actually hurting anything.
But it is. The amount of clans that are official is becoming a ridiculous amount. There really should not be 81 official clans. Half of them are full of spam and really serve no social purpose or formal "clan gathering" structure. I know that a full-blown clan clearup will not go down well, I am not suggesting that. But, we can most definitely slow the amount of DSCs being made. And again, promote joining already official clans over creating new ones.
Originally Posted by smod shit
Oh, except make their own terrible DSC that insults the whole clan community and then use their position to try and push it to official.
Alan, it was a bad idea.
Originally Posted by Fish
But getting to the actual topic. I don't think we really want to keep all these clans who claim to be "rebuilding".
Perhaps dead clans remain dead? Or, there is a price to revive them once in the dead clans section. It may make people think twice.
Originally Posted by Fish
and so long the council is consistant then it isn't a problem.
The thing is, the council is consistent with letting clans through that then just become spammy and/or die.
Still think we need to knuckle down with the clan council and get some real reasoning behind each member's vote.
Last edited by Uric; Mar 22, 2011 at 04:18 AM.
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<~Fish> I love handling dicks
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Originally Posted by Uric
So if there are others saying it as well, why do we not do something about it?
We are starting to, right now.
Originally Posted by Uric
But it is. The amount of clans that are official is becoming a ridiculous amount. There really should not be 81 official clans. Half of them are full of spam and really serve no social purpose or formal "clan gathering" structure. I know that a full-blown clan clearup will not go down well, I am not suggesting that. But, we can most definitely slow the amount of DSCs being made. And again, promote joining already official clans over creating new ones.
Couldn't agree more, I had already started highering up my "specs" on each clan, hence why I am now mostly voting no's. Mostly for the fact indeed that many clans are becoming official and in the end they turn up to become spammy and within a few months die, I'd suggest raising the price to 80k or 75k to be able to re-apply, and in return, get 40k only. Also raising the time as a DSC to a month (only 1 week more).
Originally Posted by Uric
Alan, it was a bad idea.
I actually never thought it would go so far, I never even planned on applying (I planned on creating a clan with Bust3r much months ago, half a year I could say), but since I wasn't the only one making the decisions the other leaders said we should apply and blablabla, just read the main post, it is for sure the less serious DSC I've ever seen. But still, I'm working on it.
Originally Posted by Uric
Perhaps dead clans remain dead? Or, there is a price to revive them once in the dead clans section. It may make people think twice.
Make them pay 100k to revive their clan seems a reasonable thing to me.
Originally Posted by Uric
The thing is, the council is consistent with letting clans through that then just become spammy and/or die.
Still think we need to knuckle down with the clan council and get some real reasoning behind each member's vote.
Just tell them the reason why we need to do this, I'm sure they will understand and go harder on applicants.
