To interject: Oh I don't know... the Tuskegee syphilis study, to name one. And the recently revealed Guatemala experiments (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/02/he.../02infect.html).

I guess society is just fucking with science by prohibiting the deliberate infection of vulnerable populations with potentially lethal diseases.

The avatar representing sacred geometry and the golden mean. mathematics which mirrors living things?
EDIT oops you mean the bomb the shit out of people to free them avatar. My mistake.

EDIT: why did i even bother speaking...DOH!

Yeh i got it now... im speaking before thinking...i must make a mental note.

Good point logic(and i appreciated the sarcasm:d).
Really a nice example of science without any kind of morality,it make me think..

Kai76 i'd prefer to do not start again the usual discussion on what is universally accepted and what isn't,but you should review your statment("If someone close to me was killed, i would be upset, thats a natural instinct").Without take "exotic" example,i can link you more than 1 video where people got killed in a public place,between the general indifference.

Anyway i thought this thread was more a way for try to describe what morlity is.
As already said i partially agreed with H. Bergson description(morality like a drag to a drag).I can agree with him that a kind of morality could be something like an instinct that humans have for fight the individualism that could damage the "natural" sociability.
I have still to think on it,but it could be true in some aspects(but i'm and individualist and this description on the morality show the individualism like the "enemy"[even if probabily Bergson wasn't much savant on different kinds of philosophical individualism].Plus i'm not totally convinced about "natural sociability" of humans)