HTOTM: FUSION
If it passes, for us users to find new music we would have to go and buy cd's again which makes more money for the company/Artist.

Which will most likely make the artist make more songs for us to listen too.

So I am both ways on this.

1. I don't want to start paying money to listen to music.

2. Buying there product is good and will increase production of said artists music.


What I dont get is why dont they just dis allow posting of music/game vids instead of just taking down the whole site.

People post home video's too.


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Most people are defiant, which means even if they pass this bill some one will find away to post vids anyway.

Just how it is.
If this passes it may destroy the very internet, if not it'll become the new china. For whatever reason online you may be punished. I couldn't give any more shits about if they lose money or not. It's their own fault for making it so damn easy. They don't think ahead of time and they never will. If the internet goes down, how will the banks go? If the banks get fucked the world economy may also go get fucked. The banks are reliant on the internet as they transfer information through the internet. The personal info is there, the amount of money and it gets worse...

Even if this would pass, it would still go around with piracy(as they intend to stop) at a just as high scale, or maybe a few percent below. It will never stop. All they do is make themselves even more hated. As I see it the US government may even become like Hitler(with the exeption of his hate for jews) and people can get taken in for less. They may go about the world and litteraly place death penality on people in Europe, Africa or even Asia if they get more power than they currently have.

What I'm even more concerned about is how will the world react? There's a massive amount of people that will be affected by this. And how will the people act against this?
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The entertainment buisness doesn't need more money.
Take Justin Bieber for example, girls find ways to download his music illegaly all the time, but at the same time, his agents probably make millions off of each show. If you want to make the world a better place, US congress, then you will have to start fixing yourself, not us.

I shouln't really care though, I'm pretty sure this thing is only happening in America, so if it passes, which don't get me wrong, I hope to god it won't, us Canadians will be unaffected XD
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So the US is playing internet police again hmm?

This bill won't pass, not if the public has any say in it. And given the petition linked in the original post, i'm inclined to think they do.
Originally Posted by 4zb41 View Post
So the US is playing internet police again hmm?

This bill won't pass, not if the public has any say in it. And given the petition linked in the original post, i'm inclined to think they do.

That isn't how legislation in America works. Plus petitions are just about the worst way to get politicians to change their mind. 700k people signing a petition means almost 210 million (adult population before anyone asks) did not. Guess which number is more significant?

But anyway, even if this does pass (unlikely considering Google is directly opposed to it) Obama will most likely veto it. On the slim chance he doesn't, the supreme court will tear it down the first time some company tries to sue someone according to the new legislation as it violates several constitutional/ammendment rights. This is just the RIAA trying to flex its political muscle once again.
I like how the MPAA says they lose $135 billion per year due to piracy. I kinda doubt they lose that much, and they seem to be doing fine without it. If they didn't charge so much maybe they'd sell more.
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Originally Posted by Gum View Post
I like how the MPAA says they lose $135 billion per year due to piracy. I kinda doubt they lose that much, and they seem to be doing fine without it. If they didn't charge so much maybe they'd sell more.

$135 billion does seem excessive, but then you could bring up the argument that they didn't lose any money, they just didn't gain any :P
But that's a whole new can of worms, so i'll drop that there.

Anyway, yeah Dalliance, i'm aware petitions don't do shit to the affairs of passing a law. What it does do however is raise awareness, which gets more of the public informed. Which is good, I suppose. Guess it could catch the attention of powerful third parties too, if they can be bothered/ are able to do something about it.
And it's not as if 210 million people directly signed a petition saying they support the bill, merely they didn't sign any petition at all. Take that as you will.
Originally Posted by Dalliance View Post
That isn't how legislation in America works. Plus petitions are just about the worst way to get politicians to change their mind. 700k people signing a petition means almost 210 million (adult population before anyone asks) did not. Guess which number is more significant?

But anyway, even if this does pass (unlikely considering Google is directly opposed to it) Obama will most likely veto it. On the slim chance he doesn't, the supreme court will tear it down the first time some company tries to sue someone according to the new legislation as it violates several constitutional/ammendment rights. This is just the RIAA trying to flex its political muscle once again.


Besides, Why would a business sue you for putting a link to their website, citing your sources, and, wait for it, FREE ADVERTISEMENT! That's what a lot of businesses think! They have advertisement by the people and it's free, they don't have to break the bank to get the word of their product out. The internet is the fastest way to spread the word about something.
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