Originally Posted by
Boredpayne
Manufactured outrage. If you're going to complain about how soldiers fighting in open combat aren't given a trial, you're going to have to condemn a whole lot more than the United States.
Personally I don't condone war in the first place, but I digress; invading a country and killing a man who you just woke up, still in pyjamas, who cowers behind his wife in his bedroom is hardly comparable to 'how soldiers fight in open combat'. From a moral standpoint I think you can at least appreciate that killing an unarmed man - no matter how much you don't like them - is unjustified. I am pretty sure a well trained elite team can overpower a 50 year old man in his pyjamas, so there is really no excuse for killing rather than detaining.
I think there would be quite an outrage if soldiers attacked sleeping enemies and slaughtered them.
However the worst part is when Americans refer to the killing of Osama as 'justice'. Actually, the really sickening part is when Americans go on about 'oh how weak Osama was, I heard he was huddled and crying and begging for his life and even cowering behind his wife, haha what a loser. I'm glad they killed him'. Whenever an American says something like that it makes me sick to my stomach.
This is the kind of behaviour which is an indicator of a psychopath... I guess the most troubling part of this situation is that the majority of USA are showing psychopathic tendencies.
Originally Posted by
Vox
durr
I think you are really scraping the bottom when you say someone is wrong in saying;
'9 years' instead of '8 years and 270 days'
'4500' instead of '4483'
'800 billion' (obvious typo was made) instead of '757.8 billion' ignoring your other source
And 1,000,000 dead Iraqis vs 103,536 to 113,125 casualties as a a result of the war. Notice you are both talking about different things, the 1 million includes deaths from food shortages, infrastructure failure, in other words it is 'how many people died as a result of the war' as opposed to 'how many people were
killed by the war'.
The current purpose of the war is to support stability and rebuilding of the nation, correct? In my opinion although the war should never have been started nor have gone this far, nor should USA have carpet bombed civilian targets, etc, in short there were a lot of mistakes and bad things, however it is irresponsible of the USA to pull out now.
But I guess if you consider that USA is the main target of the insurgents, and internal and international pressures, maybe it is the right move. Allied forces are less at risk and without the US presence the region stands a better chance of stabilizing.
Last edited by Gormun; Dec 27, 2011 at 05:22 PM.