HTOTM: FUSION
Honestly, all I want to find out is what happened during the altercation that took place. And if there are any medical reports as well.

So does everybody else. Honestly this thread should be locked until the evidence comes out, because you can't argue with out facts to back shit up. Speculating is fine, but at the current time debating isn't.
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I do somewhat agree with Alaistier.

I doubt he was a racist. However, I don't think that Trayvon was worthy of being shot.

I've read about it and Zimmerman wanted to be a cop. He called the cops many times before the incident, and each time the cops said to let it go.

What I think happened: Zimmerman saw Trayvon walking with a hood and a bag of goodies from a local store. Becoming curious, he followed Trayvon. Trayvon probably started to run when a guy in a white truck had been following him around the neighborhood (I would too). Zimmerman became more suspicious and approached the guy. He probably ended up getting the shit beaten out of him by Trayvon out of self defense. (If I had the capability to beat up a guy that was following me, I would too.) Zimmerman, being the idiot he is, shot him out of frustration and accused Trayvon of attacking him.
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Okay, for the people who tl;dr. (Alaisteir)

I DO NOT think this is a racial issue, I'm was simply explaining how it was. (You can at least read this 1 liner.)

Yes, the media warps most of what you've heard. Look at Kony for a prime example. Pretty soon, people'll catch on with Trayvon like they did with Kony:
Step one- bandwagon.
Step two- side with the smart people who saw through the bandwagon.

The sack? I'm about to explain how the media works, but here are a couple things you should know. You seem to justify "the media" as everything you ever saw on TV. If anything Fox is the most biased TV news reporter. Stations like MSNBC and even Comedy Central only report the truth and don't put a spin on things that don't need a spin off on. The only thing NBC did wrong was cut out a part of the audio that helped to determine if it was a racial issue or not (But it wasn't a significant part).

I'm not a bandwagon hopper, but even I know that Kony was only covered on the news for a couple hours and just like that, it ended. Why? That topic isn't ultimate concern.
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Im accepting of every single thought? I maybe I am, but that does mean I don't have my own thoughts on what might have happened.

Nobody said you couldn't have your own thoughts...But when you dispute thoughts that aren't the case...

More info for you:
There were 8 burglaries in the 15 months prior to the Trayvon Martin shooting. According to the same exact source, they were all committed by young black males. (Source)

Now, if you were in that neighborhood late at night, and you saw a suspicious young black male that you don't recall living in that area, what would you think? After the past 8 burglaries being committed by persons with similar characteristics what would you think?

So you're admitting that you would also shoot a black man if you heard about that because he was black and. somehow therefore, could be linked to the reports? You're not exactly making yourself look good here.

Really? Haha.

No seriously, do you?
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For some reason I am unable to edit my post but: I DO NOT think this is a racial issue, I'm was simply explaining how it was factored into the problem. (You can at least read this 1 liner.)
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Youtube Video of NBC's report on Trayvon Martin Case

Listen to that video and hear what Zimmerman says.

Tell me that wasn't done on purpose to make it seem like Zimmerman was racist.

EDIT:
Originally Posted by Acesonnall View Post
So you're admitting that you would also shoot a black man if you heard about that because he was black and. somehow therefore, could be linked to the reports? You're not exactly making yourself look good here.

Where did I say I would shoot anyone? I asked you what would you think... I'm done talking to you.
Last edited by DaNooB23; Apr 19, 2012 at 01:20 PM.
Originally Posted by DaNooB23 View Post
Youtube Video of NBC's report on Trayvon Martin Case

Listen to that video and hear what Zimmerman says.

Tell me that wasn't done on purpose to make it seem like Zimmerman was racist.

EDIT:

Where did I say I would shoot anyone? I asked you what would you think... I'm done talking to you.

Okay, for the people who tl;dr. (Alaisteir)

I DO NOT think this is a racial issue, I'm was simply explaining how it was. (You can at least read this 1 liner.)

In this case you just I guess didn't read.

By asking me "...what would you think?" you're telling me that I should feel and think like Zimmerman, therefore, telling me that I should have the right to shoot someone who just looks suspicious (From what was presented, nothing more). By you telling me I should think, feel, and act like that, you therefore have the same idea since it came from you. I'm not putting words in your mouth, just post at your own risk.
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And yes, this should be locked since all the facts haven't been presented and will then cause flaming.
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@Acesonall (Im tired of quoting stuff. Its annoying.)

You said NBC tells the truth. I posted a video of NBC where they altered facts (the dispatcher call) to make it look a certain way. I didn't think I would have to say anymore in order for you to see where I was going with that.


You said: "Dude, that's like me seeing you wearing a hood with some rainbow candy in your hand and shooting you just like that because you looked suspicious."

What I wanted you to get from my reply was: The characteristics of Trayvon (young, black, male) matched up to the characteristics of the previous 8 burglars (young, black, male). Zimmerman had a legitimate reason as to why he perused Trayvon. (I probably should have just said this now that I think about it.)

Also, Zimmerman did not run up to Martin and shoot him because he was suspicious. A lot of events took place between Zimmerman's initial spotting of Martin and the fatal shooting that occurred. To say that Zimmerman shot someone just because they were suspicious is ridiculous. You're completely disregarding the other factors that were involved in the actual shooting which is leading me to believe that you're not being serious right now.
A of what you reponse included were things I DIDIN'T state at all.
1. I didn't say "NBC tells the truth" and I even mentioned when they did screw up and it was minor. I'm on a 3DS so I can't copy and paste, but honestly, if your going to refute me, qoute EXACTLY what I say. Read up to see what I said.

And dude! I'm a young, black, male (15)! So are many other people in this world. Maybe it wasn't completely race, but he did racially categorize him. What there were 8 burglaries by 8 young, white, males and Trayvon was a young white male named Cody? Think he would have gotten shot? Maybe, maybe not.
The point is, the way Zimmerman racially categorized him was wrong.
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Not to be a buzzkill, Aces, but you weren't out and about in the neighborhood in which frequent burglaries had happened, caused primarily by young black males, late at night, wearing a hoodie.

You're just a young black male. That's not even relevant to what DaNoob is saying.
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You're not getting my point. You both are saying that it's okay to feel the need to shoot a guy you think might be related to the cases (WHO WASN'T, lets be real here). That's also making it premeditated if that was his intent while patrolling. We just can't prove that here, but first off, you don't go around handling problems by shooting a guy first (Because then you kill the suspect and that's not how America operates, we don't just kill people for looking like someone), it would have been better to question him POLITELY (Which if he did, he may have insulted him while doing so because why else would Trayvon attack him since he wasn't involved with the burglaries?) and if he acted suspiciously, like extreme stuttering or trying to dodge questions, then take him in for questioning. Lol don't shoot him, because then this right here happens as a result.
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"Hey kid, what're you doing out here this late at night?"

"Nothing sir, just on my way home."

*shoots*

I can basically guarantee you that didn't happen. Not that I'm saying Trayvon was necessarily a burglar, but he sure as hell matched the profile of recent burglars and was wearing a hoodie, which is regularly utilized by those who'd like to conceal their identity, half-assedly or otherwise.

This isn't racism, and no one said that he shot him out of nowhere. I doubt he just walked up to Trayvon, shot him because he was block, then beat himself up and told the cops it was in self-defense.

But hey, those are just my two cents.
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