Alright mate, this is your time on the stage.
Throw some quotes at us, back up what you are saying.
I'm giving you an open mind and an opportunity to show me exactly what you are talking about, don't give me some flaky bullshit like "the general gist of it".
The Bible ... point(s) to an earlier civilization with astounding technology
Throw some quotes at us, back up what you are saying.
I'm giving you an open mind and an opportunity to show me exactly what you are talking about, don't give me some flaky bullshit like "the general gist of it".
Originally Posted by DDDyyy
Spiritual Technology as differentiated from Physical Technology. Physics of the spirit. Cuz there's only 2 cranes in the friggin world that can lift some of the stones in the pyramids to where they are now.
Oh, but that's total bullshit! You don't need to take 1 block from the ground and then place pull it 140 m up in one go. You simply have to put it on the next tier of blocks and then up and then up again.
And putting the block some 2,5 m up onto the next stone is really basic and can be done in multiple ways. So yeah.
Can you tell me more about the crane theory? Where did you read that BS?
BTW am I the only one, but I don't like the whole concept of the pyramids? A huge triangle, it seems so dumb to me. Terrible design
Last edited by 5brickbomzh; Sep 14, 2012 at 12:58 AM.
Actually a pyramid is a REALLY efficient way to build...basically a big pile of rocks. Pretty much, the pyramids were built by spacecraft just hovering over Cairo and dumping big piles of stone blocks next to the nile. :-)
As for Biblical stuff...Genesis 6 sets the stage for the flood saying that the "Nephilim" were on the earth in those days when the sons of God married the daughters of men and had children by them. They are described as "heroes of old".....6 chapters into Genesis they are already described as "of old"...you might say they were already an ancient race at the time of the flood.
Apparently some of them survived the flood because they are also called the Anakites. When Joshua takes the wandering Israelites into the Promised Land, they encounter the "sons of Anak" who the Bible describes as Giants in the Land. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anak
Now, immediately after the Flood, in Genesis 11, man has increased in number but no spread across the earth. Instead, they decided to build a city with a tower that reached to the heavens...Most researchers (both christian and secular) agree that the structure they were probably building was a Ziggurat http://www.livius.org/za-zn/ziggurat/ziggurat.html. This is basically a pyramid.
In an awesome archaeology book called "Ur of the Chaldees" by Sir Leonard Woolley, the excavation of Ur showed decending layers of cities with less sophisticated technology the deeper they went, which makes sense. then they hit 6 feet deep of water-laid clay which could only have been put there buy a massive flood. Under that layer of clay was a city which had vastly superior technology to any other layer above it, including chariot wheels.
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As for Biblical stuff...Genesis 6 sets the stage for the flood saying that the "Nephilim" were on the earth in those days when the sons of God married the daughters of men and had children by them. They are described as "heroes of old".....6 chapters into Genesis they are already described as "of old"...you might say they were already an ancient race at the time of the flood.
Apparently some of them survived the flood because they are also called the Anakites. When Joshua takes the wandering Israelites into the Promised Land, they encounter the "sons of Anak" who the Bible describes as Giants in the Land. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anak
Now, immediately after the Flood, in Genesis 11, man has increased in number but no spread across the earth. Instead, they decided to build a city with a tower that reached to the heavens...Most researchers (both christian and secular) agree that the structure they were probably building was a Ziggurat http://www.livius.org/za-zn/ziggurat/ziggurat.html. This is basically a pyramid.
In an awesome archaeology book called "Ur of the Chaldees" by Sir Leonard Woolley, the excavation of Ur showed decending layers of cities with less sophisticated technology the deeper they went, which makes sense. then they hit 6 feet deep of water-laid clay which could only have been put there buy a massive flood. Under that layer of clay was a city which had vastly superior technology to any other layer above it, including chariot wheels.
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Originally Posted by 5brickbomzh
Oh, but that's total bullshit! You don't need to take 1 block from the ground and then place pull it 140 m up in one go. You simply have to put it on the next tier of blocks and then up and then up again. And putting the block some 2,5 m up onto the next stone is really basic and can be done in multiple ways. So yeah.
Dragging 800 tons of stone in to place every day is not a simple thing to do. How many people do you think it takes to drag a 2 ton block some 100 meters vertically? The amount of energy needed to counteract gravity is staggering. Plus you need to move it horizontally, the friction of stone on sand is pretty insane. The largest blocks weight 80 tons. That is insanely massive. An 18 wheeler truck can usually only carry maybe 20 tons, so in order for us to move that stone in modern times we would need specialized machinery - the Egyptians managed to do it, 2000 years before they started using wheels.
Plus consider the precision these pyramids were constructed to, 0.5mm joins, the average error on the 4 sides is only 58mm, the base is flat to within an error of 15mm, the base is aligined to the cardinal points to within 4 minutes. The ratio of the perimeter to height of 1760/280 cubits equates to 2π to an accuracy of better than 0.05% (corresponding to the well-known approximation of π as 22/7).
Do you understand how insanely precise this is? Even with today's lasers and acceleromaters this kind of accuracy is tough over such a huge building that took so long to build - and we have highly trained professionals, not slaves.
By today's technology we would struggle to work at the same pace and precision that the pyramid builders did 4500 years ago.
Originally Posted by 5brickbomzh
BTW am I the only one, but I don't like the whole concept of the pyramids? A huge triangle, it seems so dumb to me. Terrible design
Yes, you are the only one. Most people appreciate the simplicity in design and geometric beauty. The pyramids were originally cased in shining white polished limestone - they are incredibly beautiful and majestic, the greatest monuments mankind has ever made, and over 4500 years old. Truly they are awe inspiring.
