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Originally Posted by shooter190 View Post
Religion was needed to actually be able to make laws and organize humanity.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi Hammurabi actually came up with the first sets of laws and morals hundreds of years before any monotheistic religion came about, using the principle of an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.
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I used to be catholic but as i got older i started thinking in a diffrent way,
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Originally Posted by CrazyTaco View Post
as an epistemological solipsist i have no way of knowing religion even exists, let alone want to believe in it

Sounds like you just randomly picked something that "sounded cool" from wikipedia without knowing what it means.
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ITT: we judge mordern religious institutions on what they've done hundreds of years ago and stereotype every religious believer into a fundamentalist science-hating potential terrorist.

Catholics are ordinary people. No, they don't want to tell you you're going to hell. Same with every mainstream religion everywhere.
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Originally Posted by Boredpayne View Post
Catholics are ordinary people. No, they don't want to tell you you're going to hell.

If they don't want to, then why do they? :/

Is it because their religion tells them to? Must be hard having a religion that tells you to do something that you don't want to.
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Some catholics may be extreme to the point of saying you're going to hell for any particular reason, just like some others may not. And that, obviously, applies to every other religion and religious people.

That's why, when it comes to discussing about a particular religion, I prefer to analyze that religion itself, rather than the people who follow it. My point is that we can't generalize. Saying a religion is bad because of what some of its followers do is just wrong, from my point of view.
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Originally Posted by sidvicious View Post
Some catholics may be extreme to the point of saying you're going to hell for any particular reason, just like some others may not. And that, obviously, applies to every other religion and religious people.

That's why, when it comes to discussing about a particular religion, I prefer to analyze that religion itself, rather than the people who follow it. My point is that we can't generalize. Saying a religion is bad because of what some of its followers do is just wrong, from my point of view.

How do you feel about this statement:

"A religion is defined by its followers."

You can have the most beneficial do-good religion in the world. If people use its ideals to justify violence, would you want it around? Less reasons to justify violence may actually limit violence, as people won't be able to justify their actions to themselves.

For example. Do you know why numerous people in the middle east hate America? Because we are everything they are taught to despise. Our women are scantily clad. Our women are allowed to have multiple partners, and even, god forbid, drive! We are greedy, we do not offer the needy our assistance. Because of this, we, to them, are the devil. We are satan. To them, we are all that is wrong with the world. To them, that justifies harming us.

Do you see what I mean?
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Originally Posted by CrazyTaco View Post
as an epistemological solipsist i have no way of knowing religion even exists, let alone want to believe in it

Then in the same sense, you could say anything in the independent, real world may not exist and thus you would not need to believe in it. An epistemological solipsist could also say that there is no way of knowing nature exists, let alone want to believe in science.
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Originally Posted by sidvicious View Post
Some catholics may be extreme to the point of saying you're going to hell for any particular reason, just like some others may not. And that, obviously, applies to every other religion and religious people.

That's why, when it comes to discussing about a particular religion, I prefer to analyze that religion itself, rather than the people who follow it. My point is that we can't generalize. Saying a religion is bad because of what some of its followers do is just wrong, from my point of view.

Well, it's the teachings of such religions that cause the followers to act they way they do.

The Catholic Catechism teaches that evolution is false, and that homosexuals should be put to death, and that unbelievers will burn in hell for eternity.

For most Christian sects, it's the followers who act kindly who give the a bad religion a good name, instead of bad followers giving a religion a bad name like the older middle eastern religions.
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