Originally Posted by ImmortalCow
Do we really care about the privacy of cyber threats? Why should we have to respect the privacy of a 0 day exploit?
Does the constitution really cover the privacy of abstract concepts? How do you quantify the privacy of a vulnerability?
I don't care what the constitution covers, i'm speaking about ideals. Until a crime is committed and rights are violated, there is no reason for any type of bill such as this, and if it does occur, it must only be temporary.
This would put the US in a position where they would be the aware of every threat in existence, and as such, it would give them way too much power. This leads to the same thing as the previous bills would have led to, more government influence on the internet, which as far as i'm concerned is a bad thing.
Hoss.
Originally Posted by Hyde
I don't care what the constitution covers, i'm speaking about ideals. Until a crime is committed and rights are violated, there is no reason for any type of bill such as this, and if it does occur, it must only be temporary.
This would put the US in a position where they would be the aware of every threat in existence, and as such, it would give them way too much power. This leads to the same thing as the previous bills would have led to, more government influence on the internet, which as far as i'm concerned is a bad thing.
I think there is a failure to communicate here. The data being shared is only threat information, not data on any person. Given that for threat information to exist, there must be a threat, this is not random data without reason. The information in question is being shared FROM the gov't TO private entities. So the gov't does not end up with more information. The bill doesn't give anyone the ability to censor the internet, actually the internet is not even mentioned.
And hell, even if they did, why is it so bad for the gov't to know about every threat in existence??
Once again, why should abstract data have privacy rights? I understand why a person would need privacy, but cats or dogs or cars or trees don't particularly need it.
You have read the bill, right Hyde?
One thing to say about the freedom thing, if a place was truly free there would be nothing but chaos. Since there are no laws anything goes, it's a little thing called the social contract. <----- now argue with me on that.
But from what I've read it doesn't seem like most people want, I don't personally care, I have nothing to hide and if they want to go through my history of zombies and porn (I'm 16 what do you expect) anyways. So until I start getting into some heavy duty stuff, it doesn't bother me none. (Also if people found out I watched porn it's like..... I'm 16 it's almost a given)
But from what I've read it doesn't seem like most people want, I don't personally care, I have nothing to hide and if they want to go through my history of zombies and porn (I'm 16 what do you expect) anyways. So until I start getting into some heavy duty stuff, it doesn't bother me none. (Also if people found out I watched porn it's like..... I'm 16 it's almost a given)
But in all reality... I think I might be insane...
I don't personally care, I have nothing to hide and if they want to go through my history of zombies and porn
hmmm, it's not because it doesn't concern you directly that you shouldn't care. Maybe some people, one day, will fight actively on the internet for people's rights to communicate and share, access to culture etc...
The actual governments, "culture" lobbies, TV networks etc... fear the possibilities internet offer because it makes them obsolete. Internet is a huge progress from a human point of view, but some people would like to have more control over it.
Bills like this can be re-interpreted in many ways to suit many situations, some situations might be real threats, some might be nasty revelations about important politics, or about shady treaties shitting on people's freedom, like ACTA for instance.
Alright, who's the ignorant guy that made the Stop CISPA banner at the top of the forums?
It's this sort of fear-mongering that causes people to not bother to do their own research before coming to conclusions. Poor show, Toribash.
It's this sort of fear-mongering that causes people to not bother to do their own research before coming to conclusions. Poor show, Toribash.
