it's a scale of relativity at every point above and below the observer's perspective.
Quantum physics becomes less deterministic the more you dissect it, revealing a very random underlying mechanic of our reality.
Physics becomes more deterministic as you branch out to the observer level, then it tapers off back into a less deterministic series of events as you scale out macroscopically.
In a quantum sense, the observer is the center of existence.
Back on topic, and how that has relevance is the observer itself.
If you are not aware of your observations, your actions can be safely called autonomous and not acts of intent or choice.
If you are consciously aware of your observations, it could be said that your activities are deliberate examples of exercising Free Will, and only half autonomous.
Because, let's face it, you're not in control of gravity. that's autonomous. But within the limitations of your Human Structure, you exhibit Free Will by exemplifying Conscious Awareness of your Intent.
We are both autonomous and intentional.
Quantum physics becomes less deterministic the more you dissect it, revealing a very random underlying mechanic of our reality.
Physics becomes more deterministic as you branch out to the observer level, then it tapers off back into a less deterministic series of events as you scale out macroscopically.
In a quantum sense, the observer is the center of existence.
Back on topic, and how that has relevance is the observer itself.
If you are not aware of your observations, your actions can be safely called autonomous and not acts of intent or choice.
If you are consciously aware of your observations, it could be said that your activities are deliberate examples of exercising Free Will, and only half autonomous.
Because, let's face it, you're not in control of gravity. that's autonomous. But within the limitations of your Human Structure, you exhibit Free Will by exemplifying Conscious Awareness of your Intent.
We are both autonomous and intentional.
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Originally Posted by Zelda
I would like to repeat that reality is non-deterministic. This is well established and tested physics. Look up John Bell and his inequalities. The determinism vs non-determinism argument ended decades ago. The result of a measurement in quantum physics is not predetermined, it is random.
Does this necessarily mean that the universe isn't deterministic though? Doesn't this just affect what we can determine based on what we can observe?
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Originally Posted by Pimp
Does this necessarily mean that the universe isn't deterministic though? Doesn't this just affect what we can determine based on what we can observe?
If quantum mechanical outcomes are random, which we (smarter people than me) are quite sure that they are, universe can't be deterministic. If a system has a random element in it, the outcome of the system's products/procedures will be, at some level, random as well.
That doesn't mean you can't predict almost anything based from the non random elements of the said system, but it does mean that it's not absolutely deterministic. I'm not saying
"BECAUSE QUANTUM MECHANICS EVERYTHING IS RANDOM FREE WILL EXISTS WOOOO",
because firstly I don't understand quantum mechanics, and if someone here says they do, ignore that person.
But if there is a random element to our universe, absolute determinism doesn't apply (that's at least how I understand it.).
Here is a simpler way to put what i mean
" I think it's all probabilities. The future might not be set in stone...but there's a great probability that it will happen a certain way.
So there is still a randomness to the universe, but the greater the force that something will happen...the greater a force is needed to change events"
" I think it's all probabilities. The future might not be set in stone...but there's a great probability that it will happen a certain way.
So there is still a randomness to the universe, but the greater the force that something will happen...the greater a force is needed to change events"
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Originally Posted by cocacobra
I'm also very very very doubtful when it comes to any article about scientists claiming to understand how the brain works. I mean they can monitor a few things like releasing of chemicals and heat but I don't think that scientists can make such huge speculations like the one in the article claim. Not to mention that is not a very scholarly article, it's doctors answering to a reporter so there are probably some inaccuracies and dumbed down answers.
"Our study shows that decisions are unconsciously prepared much longer ahead than previously thought. But we do not know yet where the final decision is made. We need to investigate whether a decision prepared by these brain areas can still be reversed."
article from the society responsible for the experiment
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Is the uncertainty, fear, pain response your only motivator to avoid something? Is the hunger, desire, pleasure response your only motivator?
