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Originally Posted by Solax View Post
Where/how do you market yourself to get work since, as you said, the market is pretty full up.

I don't, only word of mouth lol. I've worked only got work from people/companies I've worked for. Most people I know who freelance do the same.

I know a guy who freelance geospatial programs, which you would think would be a super locked down market, but through sheer reputation he pulls huge contracts. I guess the lack of LISP programmers means he can corner the market somewhat, but still... He makes well into 6 figures afaik.
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Hi I do python for a living!

I work at a consulting firm in Ohio doing a smattering of everything, but mostly I work in Django.

Originally Posted by Solax View Post
Where/how do you market yourself to get work since, as you said, the market is pretty full up.

I wouldn't say that the market is full, but it is hard to get work without a reputation preceding you. The consulting firm I'm with markets by being prevalent in the local community (meetups, 2 of our partners are on the board of pyohio, talking at other conferences, etc) and by just being super available. Referrals are actually the vast majority of our contracts. Another shockingly effective thing is to rent co-working space. Organic networking at it's finest, haha.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
I do some freelance webdev too, primarily in django though. What didn't you like about it?

Before that I was working at a firm that used .NET for their webapps. Comparatively I would say that django gives you a lot more power without you needing to think about it (eg automatic scheme and model generation).

Webdev is ok for money but the market is very saturated, a firm I work with from time to time charge insane fees for their websites, the charge over $200/hr for their devs time. IMO the only reason they get business at all is because they charge such fees. As freelance how do you value your time? I clock at $100/hr and then on fees where I see fit. Though sadly django is too fast to turn a profit with it alone...

It's not that I don't like django, I'm indifferent to it. I can achieve the same thing with other technologies that I'm more familiar with and it doesn't have anything remarkable for me to learn it as my go-to backend.

I usually get paid per project, not hour. And that ranges from 50$ for fixing something broken to >500$ for an entire website. I'd say I work pretty cheap and that's how I attract my clients.

How did you guys get into this business? Did you start as freelancers or you got a full time job as a junior?
Originally Posted by Solax View Post
Have a go at this. Post results.

I like to do work at my own speed :C
Something is better than nothing.

Originally Posted by dista View Post
I usually get paid per project, not hour. And that ranges from 50$ for fixing something broken to >500$ for an entire website. I'd say I work pretty cheap and that's how I attract my clients.

Holy shit this is incredibly cheap. We bill $125/hour and that's on the low end here.
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Originally Posted by Eleeleth View Post
Holy shit this is incredibly cheap. We bill $125/hour and that's on the low end here.

Wow, that's a lot. You make in a day what I kinda make in a week.

But the keeping in mind fact that I live in parent's house in a city with a population of 13.000 in Romania and the fact that I finished highschool just last year, I think I'm doing pretty good for myself. I earn up to 4k$ a month, and that's a lot here.

The average worker in my city makes 250$ a month. You make that in 2 hours and that's insane.
I read through the whole thread and now I'm really curious about this whole programming thing. Like, what is it used for primarily? I do have a clear idea of what uses it brings like making a website function properly and shortcuts for games but I'm pretty sure I'm missing something. Educate me please.

Oh btw, I did amateur coding and scripting in Dreamweaver back in high school for school projects but I'm not sure if it's the same thing as what everyone is talking about here. Super impressed with your achievements tho, dista.
Last edited by iAwesome; Jan 13, 2016 at 09:59 PM.
Originally Posted by iAwesome
I read through the whole thread and now I'm really curious about this whole programming thing. Like, what is it used for primarily? I do have a clear idea of what uses it brings like making a website function properly and shortcuts for games but I'm pretty sure I'm missing something. Educate me please.

Oh btw, I did amateur coding and scripting in Dreamweaver back in high school for school projects but I'm not sure if it's the same thing as what everyone is talking about here. Super impressed with your achievements tho, dista.

Programming does a ton of things. Basically everything you see on your computer and whatnot consist of it in one way or another.

Here:
http://cplus.about.com/od/introducti...rogrammers.htm (Hopefully this makes sense to you)

All this stuff is like a huge sandbox to me. I love it.
Last edited by WAPOW; Jan 13, 2016 at 11:49 PM.
Originally Posted by iAwesome View Post
I read through the whole thread and now I'm really curious about this whole programming thing. Like, what is it used for primarily? I do have a clear idea of what uses it brings like making a website function properly and shortcuts for games but I'm pretty sure I'm missing something. Educate me please.

Oh btw, I did amateur coding and scripting in Dreamweaver back in high school for school projects but I'm not sure if it's the same thing as what everyone is talking about here. Super impressed with your achievements tho, dista.

If you're interested in starting then check out python and a bit of step by step guide. This one seems aight.
It'll get you familiar with a lot of programming concepts that you can then apply to other languages + python is a great starting language which you can do loooooads of stuff with given it's popularity and library support etc.