Originally Posted by wibblefox
TP and VIP were great fun and very communal when I was there.
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it's very arguable whether that's the case right now. Kinda seems like a lot of people have become inside jokes and current posting revolves around what Lazors referred to as internet jargon. A good chunk of it is kinda lame and passive aggressive.
TP is supposed to be paid wibbles though, so slightly more stringent standards on flaming might work to keep any other board from degenerating into that?
Originally Posted by wibblefox
People cannot decide what is and isn't posted in their thread. If someone posts something "not serious" then just ignore it. Don't let your OCD to reply to ever post dictate the rules.
I think you realise that this argument makes no sense though.
Don't really agree here. There are situations where not serious stuff is just distracting clutter and an obvious eyesore.
Letting people tag their own threads shouldn't be an issue though. Slightly more stringent posting standards for threads personally tagged a different way isn't harmful, and filters discussion to where it's useful and helpful to OP.
Originally Posted by wibblefox
Again who cares if people post something boring or short, it's not a problem, it won't necessarily lead to hostility.
there's a bit of a blurred line there imo. If it's meaningless to the point of being spam I think we can agree that's probably undesirable, and constantly repeated short posts is probably undesirable too
For the record, every bit of your post that I haven't quoted, I agree with.
Last edited by pouffy; Aug 22, 2016 at 10:17 PM.
Reason: shite
Originally Posted by wibblefox
1. I don't agree with your assertion. TP and VIP were great fun and very communal when I was there. I haven't seen a clan discussion thread that is hostile ever. I think you should quit your clan if they are bullying you in your own clan thread.
2. Flaming is already banned, so why do you need all these other rules? "Oh god we can't have '3 word story' threads because THERE MIGHT BE HOSTILITY!" It's an absolutely terrible attitude to have, and it has lead to all kinds of fun things being banned because over zealous moderators are afraid of having to do their job.
I never said that Tp threads aren't fun. They're not exactly welcoming though. I'm also not planning to argue about where exactly the line goes. Three word stories is a terrible example because more then half of them go down the lines of primitive dick jokes. There's a good reason to why we've exiled them to clan discussion.
Ok? So what is the point of the forum then, just move everything to irc and clans...... Don't be silly, everyone knows irc and clan discussion is not the same as the general subforum...
You're being extreme. Obviously they're not the same medium, chatting is for chatting, and posting is for posting. If you want to post one sentence posts or other low-content stuff it's not an insane idea to use IRC. You would post on the forum if you have a more concrete thread.
People cannot decide what is and isn't posted in their thread. If someone posts something "not serious" then just ignore it. Don't let your OCD to reply to ever post dictate the rules.
I don't think you understand. It would work like this: If the user wants a serious thread, he would use a [serious] tag. This would mean that the moderation in those threads would be harsher than the usual threads.
I don't think your OCD argument is very good. The fact is that one-liners and memes kill serious threads. The first few posts in a thread decides the tone of the thread. There has to be a distinction between serious and non-serious threads for that reason. It will be incredibly hard to get a serious thread going if people are more interested in shitting the thread away.
Are you against giving people the opportunity to have serious threads? It sounds to me like you're just appealing to one of the sort of people who come to off-topic, while I'm arguing for a lot more freedom for more than one sort of person.
Not sure what you are talking about but all of what I mentioned is about offtopic.
No, moonshake points to a rule specifically in gaming chat. Yes, gaming chat is in off-topic. And the gaming chat rules are really old.
What is the point of this rule, it's offtopic.
Are you really that worried that birthday threads or game threads are going to lead to hostility? If you are so damn worried about hostility just say "no hostility", stop making proxy rules...
Just because a thread is 'boring' to you doesn't mean it should be banned. There are a lot of people here and people find different things interesting. Stop imposing your personal opinion over the entire userbase...
People will tire of birthday threads, and they're not smart enough to simply ignore them. Birthdays and leaving/coming back threads are completely centered around one user. Theoretically and rhetorically, your argument sounds good, but in practice there is a good reason why we added a rule against them.
Again, who cares if the thread is boring, if you are so bored just stop reading. Obviously people are posting because they are interested otherwise the thread would just die.
No, people are posting because it's more fun to give your opinions than to read others. You're not thinking of the people who will have to read the crap. It's not insane to ask for a compromise where the content is fun to post and interesting to read.
IMO mods should just stick to what ACTUALLY IS A PROBLEM. For example if you don't want flaming, then police flaming. Don't ban and close all threads because you are afraid that "Let's count to 100!" will end in hostility... Seems like mods are just too lazy to do their jobs so they are making rules that give themselves less work even if it's detrimental to the community. If you have an excuse to arbitrarily close any thread you see then you don't even have to read it to see if people are breaking rules, just close everything! And thus we have this terrible situation...
No, I still think there has to be some standard to the posts, but I've addressed this.
Brendan (he who passeth judgement on the frequent changing of signatures): I don't do hentai anymore
Yeah, the tagging of serious threads is a good idea if you're concerned with overmoderation, Pig. In Toriprime, the idea came about from the opposite way - people were concerned that everybody was shitting on everybody else too much and all threads would inevitably descend to crap. Some people were angry that they could never have a decent, serious thread there.
I suggested that the community (since it's a premium board) should be able to select the level of moderation they want in their thread. Every thread is assumed to be unmoderated UNLESS the OP tags it as [Serious].
I modded the board and it worked fine for ages until an over-zealous ninja closed a thread that wasn't tagged. I reopened it, wrote 'bawww' or something and was promptly fired. I haven't had TP for a while now (I'll have it back once Parrot wins CL) so I can't comment on the state of it, but the idea of users tagging threads that they want someone to moderate is still a good idea I reckon'.
I suggested that the community (since it's a premium board) should be able to select the level of moderation they want in their thread. Every thread is assumed to be unmoderated UNLESS the OP tags it as [Serious].
I modded the board and it worked fine for ages until an over-zealous ninja closed a thread that wasn't tagged. I reopened it, wrote 'bawww' or something and was promptly fired. I haven't had TP for a while now (I'll have it back once Parrot wins CL) so I can't comment on the state of it, but the idea of users tagging threads that they want someone to moderate is still a good idea I reckon'.
Well, shit really hit the fan here.
I'm closing this in like an hour so can someone please TL
R this for me? I'm not spending any time on that discussion.
I'm closing this in like an hour so can someone please TL
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Actually, this might end up being productive. Don't close it yet :<
They're talking about moderation guidelines and where the proper line should be drawn when making rules.
They're talking about moderation guidelines and where the proper line should be drawn when making rules.
