Originally Posted by Kitty

I think it is a great idea to bring back something like ToriAgents (or "beginner teachers") simply because it would greatly increase the player retention rate. Most people who play toribash leave because it is too hard, too confusing, or an alt is in the white belt rooms destroying them constantly.

Something like a ToriAgent could show them the ropes and help them understand the game, introduce them to the forums, etc.

Right now the HelpSquad could be doing this, but I'm not sure how well they are doing in the beginner rooms, I mostly just see them on the forums.

Originally Posted by Bless

Bring in the strongest people to help all things in game, and that way everyone can be taught.

Originally Posted by sir

Adding TA while also having HS means adding yet another staff group.

Originally Posted by TyZi

Help Squad does all of this, stop discrediting them.
Bringing back the staff group will not change anything.

Originally Posted by Space

in my opinion, we should just bring back Toriagents, it would be a good choice in my opinion, have like a "ingame moderator" type deal, where they make sure everything is in check, make sure there isnt alts, and other stuff.

ES (Event Squad) *
Host events and take care of in-game moderation. They aim to keep people entertained and keep Toribash interesting.

Originally Posted by BlubKill

well, but sometimes the best players are bad teachers, have no interest in teaching or cant be bothered to help anyone out if there is no gain for them.

as you stated, making the "best" ingame players something like TA's to help out beginners aswell as experienced players won't work out.
without naming any of them, but the ones which come to my mind clearly would be terrible teachers, won't work without a gain for themself and mostly play this game to duel/bet and earn money with it. why should they bother with teaching other players which potentially could break their niche and lower their income?

otherwise i have no clue what sort of players you mean, to gather for the job you specified.

Originally Posted by FMA05

I think that there is already a squad that takes care of ingame moderation, as you can see on Roles and Staff Position.

So as I briefly mentioned before, we've made a shift towards events hosting and not trawling through the general reports. We've got Smods to go through those now. THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T HELP. We'll definitely still be around as your first port of call if a scam is happening, or if someone is being general troublesome ingame, you can come get a gamemaster and we'll do our best to sort it out on the spot. But if the case gets too large/convoluted and requires a general report then our involvement in it will become less. It makes sense to have the guys that host events and are ingame all the time to be available to help whenever they can, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to have them be the ones that deal with a lot bans. We're here to make it fun, not bring the banhammer!
So that's been happening already for a couple of months, so we could have a nicer transition. This is just a formal announcement so everyone knows really.

Originally Posted by FMA05

Don't ruin the fun, bringing back TA's it's not necessary, they were removed for some reason.
Is not anyone's fault if somebody sucks. "We" learnt by ourselves and didn't had this teacher stuff, and tbh, the new generation plays a lot and so much better than the old.

The focus should be on the tutorial, explaining the basic movements and the function of each joint, like how not to click randomly.

Having TA's is not a "must be" feature, at least now.
And there are already good hearted people who volunteered to be teachers in a Help Squad Thread on the beginners sanctuary, why not give attention and improve that ?

Originally Posted by Smaguris

Bless, Ele, you guys don't seem to understand how beginners tend to be. It's not like you can go into a room and say "hey guys, I'm here to teach you the game, now do as I show". Around 70% of beginners are not even participating in the chat, and the ones that do tend to just comment on their or other players' plays.
Where am I going with this? The matter of a fact is that if a person doesn't enjoy the game, a guy that sits in the room with him won't change a thing. If a beginner enjoys the game he will go beyond the game and watch youtube tutorials, visit forums, etc. You seem to make really big deal that the new user group would lower retention rates but that's not how it works, people that enjoy the game will stay and people that don't enjoy it will leave.

Whether it would be HS or TA there is a limit of what you can do in public beginner room. You can't just teach them the game itself by going on a fight and saying "watch what I do". You have to really understand this: beginners don't try to learn the game, they are trying out the game. No beginner joins the game and the first thing they think is "wow I really want to be good at this game". No. They are trying out the game and seeing if they like it, you cannot simply lower the retention by coming up to a group newbies and saying "I'm here to teach you the game so stay".

TAs or HS are only there to answer general questions, give various suggestions, link them to threads that can explain them about the game and maybe get rid of some alts. Teaching in such conditions is simply impossible and unnecessary.

Originally Posted by SmallBowl

I found that if you have a conversation with them and slip in tips they take it very well and are grateful 90% of the time.

I have tried just giving them tips without a conversation because that seems really dry like school - that might be why so many of them
dont seem to be as grateful