Originally Posted by Ele

Explain to me how it 'forces' a clans activity in a direction. All it does is provide them with ANOTHER method of achieving activity. It doesn't take anything away. If you don't like this idea because I came up with it, just say that instead.

Originally Posted by Ele

Not when it's possible for the clan you're describing to still have 10 active members and not achieve full activity points, which CAN BE the case when inactive ranks are not considered. This is why we brought it up.

You and sir say inactive ranks functionally change nothing, but you're just flat-out wrong.

Originally Posted by nikosefs

1.so with these changes in the system, if i were to reapply jolly for official,what would be our chances?

2.our problem is the big inactive roster of members that
we dont want to kick,can now x small number of active
players take the burden of their x inactive brothers?

3.also an idea for sp clans, is it possible to make online
servers but with uke as opponent, that way you could monitor them just as mp clans with games played
(got the idea from single player games that require online connection)

Originally Posted by Jack

I’ve been detached from the community for a bit, so I don’t want to give criticism, without knowing the whole situation.

1. What i want to suggest is that the activity points be reset after every check, hard resetting the scores to 0 after an activity check, in this case 2 months (the ones that leaders use i mean) because it’s pretty annoying to look at the activity and ponder if the activity that people have is just last months activity that they got at the end of the month. And maybe have a “Activity Hostory” (saves the activity of the last x checks) that way leaders can judge there members.

2.As for the sp activity, idk if i’m speaking sci fi scenario here, but it would be cool if the game had a tracking system that would track the joints clicked, frames skipped, time spent on a replay then somehow converting that to activity points (but quite small for just those), then if they upload it they get a multiplier that would boost the score (idk how replays are managed but if joke replays get removed by staff, it doesn’t sound too bad), also somehow give more points if you get cnc from respected replay makers/respected players. Just wild ideas that might seem fun to think about.

Originally Posted by Lionet

well, once your clan selected "SP Clan" option you are pretty much forced to stick to SP if I got your idea right. Same as if your clan pick "MP Clan" option, because if your clan happens to slow down mp activity but rather started posting some replays for some odd reason, they won't be counted and vice-versa.

Originally Posted by Lionet

If clans needed to specify their "specialized area of activity", that means there would be a system checking SP clans and another system checking MP clans, forcing each type of clan playing only one of those in order to pass the checks.

Originally Posted by Lionet

If a clan could pick being both SP and MP, then it's all cool but why splitting SP and MP when you have a system which already considers both in one?

so with these changes in the system, if i were to reapply jolly for official,what would be our chances?

our problem is the big inactive roster of members that
we dont want to kick,can now x small number of active
players take the burden of their x inactive brothers?


also an idea for sp clans, is it possible to make online
servers but with uke as opponent, that way you could monitor them just as mp clans with games played
(got the idea from single player games that require online connection)

Yes, the problem it's indicative of is a shitty automated system... Christ.

So what does this mean? Are you going to consider Discord or no? You don't want it formalised, but you want to be aware of it? What does this actually mean for clans with discords?

Dude, fuck you. Unnecessary shade, especially when all I'm doing here is helping out. If you don't want me posting, or you're not going to take what I say seriously, just tell me not to post here.

I expected better from you, Mr. 'Community Cultivation'.

I’ve been detached from the community for a bit, so I don’t want to give criticism, without knowing the whole situation.

What i want to suggest is that the activity points be reset after every check, hard resetting the scores to 0 after an activity check, in this case 2 months (the ones that leaders use i mean) because it’s pretty annoying to look at the activity and ponder if the activity that people have is just last months activity that they got at the end of the month. And maybe have a “Activity Hostory” (saves the activity of the last x checks) that way leaders can judge there members.

As for the sp activity, idk if i’m speaking sci fi scenario here, but it would be cool if the game had a tracking system that would track the joints clicked, frames skipped, time spent on a replay then somehow converting that to activity points (but quite small for just those), then if they upload it they get a multiplier that would boost the score (idk how replays are managed but if joke replays get removed by staff, it doesn’t sound too bad), also somehow give more points if you get cnc from respected replay makers/respected players. Just wild ideas that might seem fun to think about.

regarding inactivity ranks, I think there is no harm on adding them. Some clans have members that just wont come back and even if they do, they're less likely to play the game often again. I just can't tell to what extend this feature should be "easily handled" by the clan, when someone is going inactive for a while they can just put them as inactive until this person come back, and this runs far away from the "members we don't want to kick" speech. That said, I prefer not having inactivity ranks for the time being

Originally Posted by Erth

The more I read on it the more I'm torn on the issue, and I hope you see my dilema.
On the one hand, if a clan has over 50% of its members totally dead, that clan clearly can't be considered as active as a clan like evo, whereby a lot of their older members still play and get involved. I don't think anyone is arguing that.
On the other hand, I totally understand the sentiment of not wanting to kick oldies from the clan, which ultimately leads to a clan filling up with people who have gone inactive.
There is a long term issue there, but I don't know as a straight up inactive rank that excludes them from checks is the way forward.
I'll reignite some discussions on it, and see what happens. No promises obviously but I can at least get it talked about some more for you guys.

To clarify, the activity points are only penalised if over 50% of the clan is inactive.