Originally Posted by Footlox

Audit every org to check their activity, what their purpose is and if they’re really contributing to the community or not. If a dead org doesn’t respond within a month - delete them. The remaining orgs can be moved to existing subforums that they relate to.

Originally Posted by Smaguris

Removing something like orgs is quite pointless because at the end of the day having a dead part of forums doesn't hurt anyone, but if someone wants to look back on something they still have the ability to do it.

The only situation where I could see removal of orgs justified is if it improved performance of the website (with the posting lag and all)

Originally Posted by Footlox

I'm okay with deleting all orgs because TMMA will just reform somewhere else. Our main platform is discord but we can and are planning to contribute more to the community which is what orgs should do. It does such that we lose all that history in the old threads though. Good times..

Originally Posted by BigDog

there's no point in removing the orginazations that's just taking history away, instead you could keep progressing onward with toribash next and get ready to populize the game, i severely hope you guys plan on advertising, it'll really benefit you guys, and if you advertise look into twitch, this is unrelated but it's just what i think.

Originally Posted by Bison

There's one more thing.
Social groups (https://forum.toribash.com/group.php) on this forum don't make much sense, their removal will probably make the organizations more important.
If I remember correctly even Sir mentioned that he wants to remove them.

Originally Posted by Arctic

what i'd like to know is: how would the off-topic rules be enforced in those threads? there's a lot of shitposting in obt, matter of fact, 99% of the posts made there are shitposts, and that's perfectly fine the way things are right now, but would it still be okay to shitpost if those threads were in off-topic, would they be exempted?

Originally Posted by shit

On the contrary to what some people seem to think, I think orgs should be made a little bit less seriously enforced. It'd be good for people to have a designated place to group together and freely socialize on the forums (in a group outside of just their clan; you can only be in one clan at a time). Services like Discord tend to take away from this, but I don't think that's reason enough to remove it entirely from the forums.

My solution: Merge unofficial orgs into offtopic, and moderate them less seriously (meaning: allow orgs that are social, redundant, and stupid/wibblish to a degree). Make them a place for users to band together and socialize outside of just their clans. However, keep a separate board for official organizations to have their subboards, and allow quality unofficial orgs in offtopic to still apply and become official. You never know when a good org may come around, especially as user activity increases with Toribash Next.

On that last note, I think it's pretty clear and safe to say that user activity is/has been down. I don't think it's a good idea to make these big decisions deleting inactive stuff when most of the forums/game is seeing a drop in activity as a whole. Except social groups, delete social groups.

Originally Posted by Fade

• Create an Organization Archive of sorts, for their history - will work like the Dead Clans board.
• Give language based orgs a collective sub-forum in Off Topic
• Allow other orgs to create a thread in Off Topic (such as the Anime org)
• Give some of the TB related orgs a relevant sub-forum

Originally Posted by Footlox

Personally I don’t see any historical value in dead message boards. It’s dead because the people who kept it alive are no longer around. If there is something of informational value that needs to be kept then copy and paste it into the new thread. Team Aikido has a ton of history but all the good stuff we archive in our knowledge base. Other orgs should do the same. Then just cut out the fat. Same should be done throughout the forum not just for Orgs.

Originally Posted by Bison

Question about last point.
Replay making related organisations can be placed in the "Replays" section, but what about organisations related to competitive mods?
Rest of solutions look good.

Originally Posted by Immotay

The only way I can SOMEWHAT agree with org removal is if we get language based channels on the official TB discord with at least 2 "local" mods for each channel.
Language based organization serves a much greater purpose than mod based orgs, as the whole forum is in english, they are able to welcome and mentor newcommers while offering them a comfortable place to stay and interact. I remember being such newcommer when I could barely speak english in 2008.

The community is pretty small right now, and that reflects directly on the activity of such organisations, which doesnt mean they are not useful. Perhaps advertise them in-game somehow?


On the other hand, as said before: I'd gladly delete the BTO discord if we got at least a channel on the Toribash Discord with 2 or 3 portuguese-speaking mods. (by mods I mean at least having the power to delete messages). Since discord has a maximum of servers you can be in, and the official tb discord has a much longer reach, there's no point of each org (at least language based orgs) having their own discord. And if you add that to the fact that the community is already slowly migrating over to discord... I think that could be a viable alternative.

Perhaps, if things work out this way, maybe even a category with more than one text channel per language and even one voice channel?


I still rather not having language based orgs entirely removed, though. As the game gets bigger (hopefully) multi-language support only becomes more necessary.

ps.: And a fully localized game is completely useless if it forces the userbase to speak english for any minor interaction due to the fact that there's no other areas on the forum you can speak your native language.

Originally Posted by Fade

It seems to me that you're under the impression we're just deleting orgs and leaving it at that. Sorry but, did you read the thread? We're planning on giving all of the language based orgs a collective sub-forum over in off topic. A dedicated spot like this will be much more organized and easier to moderate than discord channels. You will still be able to do all of the things you did before over in off topic, so it's really just a clean up/location change.