i'm not a textures guy either, but what i've seen lately is prices for textures being hilariously high.

Even Textures from BenD or other well known texture makers arent worth more than 100k..prices these days exceed 100k easily..which is WAY to much imo.

Quality has to be worth more...sure...but the quality that is on sale atm is just to expensive.

just compare it to current prices of TC..a texture set for..idk...30 or more dollars is hilarious..you can get a pro to work on it for these price. Lower prices would prolly make texture sets worth it again.


Also, the more members this community gets, the more members will be able to pay a lot for crap. Standards need to rise again, and prices need to lower significantly.

Back in the day, I mean like, more than a year a go, a 10k head request was an absurd amount of money. Now adays the lowest prices I ever see is 1k-3k. I think another point in this problem is that hardly anyone is creative enough to come up with an idea to make tc. So everyone is clearly like "Oh that guy is rich, I'm gonna make textures too!" I know a few old retired artists that will give 500% better heads than the majority of them on the market for easily thre quarters of the price. I mean, now, I can't even post a request thread for a set because of how many pathetic attempts I will get for rediculous amounts of money that they want. I have to ask some decent texturer that I know to do it for me, this is really getting pathetic.

true, Normally I price entire sets for 10-30k (thats with free colorization). When I reentered the texturing business lately, I don't put a price on them anymore. I just ASK the client how much they think it's worth and charge them that much.

Its surprising that they'd price my work at 100-150k which even for me is kind of suprising, shocking and in some ways insulting really.

Pricing things that high makes texture makers complacent and gives us big heads. And people wonder why some of us don't do textures so much. Its because of overinflated egos brought upon by solely basing our textures and art on how much tc you have and or willing to spend.

We can take judgement pretty well. Abuse us, critique us, and rate us in the most honest sense possible. This is one way of improving the art commmunity in TB.





And instaban on those who say "nice work, GL selling"

Standards have been droping lately by huge amounts.

when I joined TB,tc was so much rare & had a decent value.Now 100k tc seems to be the minimum price to get someone do a set in the request section of market.

We should allow critisism in the market,this sounds very odd but few people should be allowed to do so.I've seen a decent number of threads where I could'nt be constructive in making a critique.Make a few people incharge who know about art to say shit on the face rather than touching the nose round the head.

I like to hear "The idea's good but implementation sucks" or maybe "You need to improve a lot." or something like that.Lot of threads are filled with comments like "Good set","epic","noice GL selling " etc... Even a worthless crappy set gets good.

Besides lot of artists ask to get out of thread if nothing good is there to say,rather than accepting what is said.



awave the "WE" is not well defined,few of us can but not most of us.

Just kinda throwin something out there, but what if the old texture makers come together to make a shop. no ordinary shop mind you but a shop where they would put up a texture/texture set wherethey'd be around 1-5k. I'm talking true quality not BS quality of these days. then no one would buy from the over inflated shops and see quality DOES matter.


Or we can just make a announcement.

Mars200:

Actually that maybe a good idea... but most of those I know are doing requests most of the time, and not shops.

The idea of an elite discount shop is good, buit i dont think it would work well enough.
The shop would become so over-requested it would get destroyed by posts.

Not only that, but i bet because the wait would be forever, people would start taking the set and selling them for profit. Probably around the same price due to the rarity.

It would be hard to get a good balance...
I personally still think a system where textures require uploading into items, then upgrade certain people who have shown themselves capable to price them.
That way, people could tag sets, trade safely, or allow an artist to see who has their set at that time.
It would require a lot of work, but it would help take control of the market, and upgrade it at the same time.
I think this would also allow someone to swap between sets quickly.

Not only this, but there is already a "textures" tab in the market (not forum)
We should make use of it.

Well people have more money so they spend more on textures so people only sell for more.
So if a texture is low quality why do people pay lots?
Because all textures cost more.
Inflation ftw

Constructive criticism is allowed in the Market.
After reviewing the rule a bit, we've opted to modify it so that constructive criticism is allowed but the shit posts like "great set" are not.
So report those useless comments to your heart's content. :D

Oh yeah....

....

I sold my last head for 100k, which I myself already thought was high.
Then it's in his shop for....

200k.

I almost had a heart attack. D:
Honestly, 100k should really be the limit on 1 head. It used to be more like 20k for a head a few months ago.
And i also remember RA's set req for 200k. Scoff at the amount now, but when I tried, it was an astronomical prize!
so...that head, now, woulda bought an epic set a few months ago...

I think the promo texture item bundles are helping to drive up prices though. Before, most of the money would go towards the item itself.
Now, since they can be so cheaply obtained through a promo, that money is going towards the image that they will upload.
Then MORE people have textures, so more requests are out. The supply hasn't really changed much. It's really been around the same people. A few more people have started texturing but some have also quit.
Meanwhile, the demand has probably tripled. Supply and demand, driving up prices.
Similar to when ps3's came out, they were sold on ebay for $700-800, far above their retail price.

...I just remembered i don't have a full set yet. lol
Cuz a full set is over 500k or more now, i think
and the promo bundle would make it be more like 200k worth?

Also, the jacked up promo item prices aren't helping too much either I think...Suppose the average gradient pair is 60k now, instead of 20k a few months ago. That's just more reason for someone to get textures.

There are some professional artists now though. I know nimkasi is. Vermine has some really nice heads too. I haven't seen his work much, just once, so I'm not sure if he is a professional artist or not, but he's good nonetheless.

Texturing used to be more like a hobby, but now, with these higher prices, a dedicated texturer, drawing all day, can really get some serious money from it!
If you can make 500k a set, then 2 sets a day would get you around $100 worth, if you manage to sell it all.

My, the market has changed...