lifesteal is mediocre on her anyway, the evasion from windrun should make up for her low HP.
if youre going for a more DPS orientated build, a fast orchid/mealstrom/mjolnir is way more effective.
vlads is generally nice though for the team, even if you are ranged, the damage and armour gain is always relative.
Originally Posted by
Tinerr
Well, I've been ignoring the nova these last matches, the extra time from frostbite is kind of useful most of the time.
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ice hold isnt a hard lock down though, a hero with blink or decent spells can still cast while being held.
nova atleast lets you contribute to the fight after you hold and i find the slow adds so much more than an extra second or 2 of soft disable.
ice hold is a setup spell, you'd be using it on squishy supports mostly anyway, who wouldnt survive past the level 1 time anyway.
Originally Posted by
Tinerr
Getting an eul is kind of demanding (better than a blink dagger imo) since it gives you enough movespeed to be decent at chasing.
euls is overrated, its a lockdown that you cant do damage while its in effect, just gives heroes with blink/blink daggers time to escape.
its nice if you want to keep someone out of a teamfight, but really, not essential. the bonus MS from tranquils is a much cheaper alternative to help with the chasing.
and regen isnt an issue with CM, her mana pool is, her ults mana cost is ridiculous, and euls doesnt give you very much.
Originally Posted by
Tinerr
And I tend to ignore the bracers and get the treads, it gives you strenght and it's cheaper. Also the regen of the tranquil won't happen since you're constantly trying to deny stuff/pull/harass.
10hp/sec is super OP, regardless of how much pulling and harassing you are doing.
treads give the lowest movement speed bonus, and on a hero who has the lowest MS in the game, and gains the least from the attack speed bonus, its just not viable.
Had some friends round at me last night, dota lan time, had a couple of good ranked games.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/444143602 (one sided games are just not fun, "sit top and farm" they said, "it will be fun" they said, didnt even get to use my items, 14 minute linkens into a 25 minute "gg")
http://dotabuff.com/matches/444390957 (casual support veno, 11 kills, 30 assists, involved in 41 of the 46 kills during the game, no probems)
Last edited by BenDover; Dec 29, 2013 at 04:13 PM.