I used to run orb on veno because lol, but it's only 12 damage and 4% slow, for chasing I think it's good, but for lanning I think you should just put the money towards aquila.
For roaming I usually go PS, VG, VG, PW, VG, PN, VG and after that depends what we do.
I think it's essential to have 1 point in to PW and PS by level 7, and maxing VG gives you the most damage potential. VG deals 50% more DoT than PS, and has 100 strike damage, not to mention a much more potent slow.
At level 4 PS deals 300 damage + 14% slow vs VG at 550 damage with 50% slow.
4 PS might be good, but once you are out of the lanning phase, VG is superior, and personally I think veno is scary enough in lane regardless of 1 PS or 4 PS. You can easily just drop VG and chase people down before they can get to their tower, so harass through fear is more effective.
And obviously you need ward for chasing, block, vision, taking down towers, etc.
For roaming I usually go PS, VG, VG, PW, VG, PN, VG and after that depends what we do.
I think it's essential to have 1 point in to PW and PS by level 7, and maxing VG gives you the most damage potential. VG deals 50% more DoT than PS, and has 100 strike damage, not to mention a much more potent slow.
At level 4 PS deals 300 damage + 14% slow vs VG at 550 damage with 50% slow.
4 PS might be good, but once you are out of the lanning phase, VG is superior, and personally I think veno is scary enough in lane regardless of 1 PS or 4 PS. You can easily just drop VG and chase people down before they can get to their tower, so harass through fear is more effective.
And obviously you need ward for chasing, block, vision, taking down towers, etc.
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gale is better as a nuke and has more killing potential, no doubt.
but the passive makes for really effective harass, without costing any mana, combined with the extra poison from orb and wards, it makes for a much stronger harassing lane.
by the time you leave the laning phase, you should already have 2 points up in gale, even if you did go max passive.
but obviously, if the lane youre up against has big nukes and gives no fucks to DoTs, focus gale and get some kills instead.
but the passive makes for really effective harass, without costing any mana, combined with the extra poison from orb and wards, it makes for a much stronger harassing lane.
by the time you leave the laning phase, you should already have 2 points up in gale, even if you did go max passive.
but obviously, if the lane youre up against has big nukes and gives no fucks to DoTs, focus gale and get some kills instead.
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Pretty much what ben said. I also prefer to buy orb of venom if I am supporting the carry against aggressive laners. Hit by hit, you will own them with orb.
For 275 you could buy half of your wraith guard and have the same dps... The problem with orb is that it's not very cost effective, doesn't scale well, has very limited uses, and doesn't transition in to the mid game well. I don't think I've ever seen a veno farm up a skadi in a real game.
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275 gold, doesnt need to be cost effective, just sell it off for wards eventually.
but its not essential anyway, just makes it a bit more fun, if the gold is going well and the right click harass is working, getting the orb doesnt hurt.
i think aquilla is overated on veno, you main damage comes from spells and passives, youre not going to be doing much right clicking in a fightget the basi ring and go straight into boots.
but its not essential anyway, just makes it a bit more fun, if the gold is going well and the right click harass is working, getting the orb doesnt hurt.
i think aquilla is overated on veno, you main damage comes from spells and passives, youre not going to be doing much right clicking in a fightget the basi ring and go straight into boots.
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